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Re: Jane MORROW ex County Cavan to Christchurch NZ
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 08 May 08 23:51 BST (UK) »

Hi All     Smiley

Mmmm .... just of further interest - Jane Morrow TAYLOR died in 1962 - her son William Percy is not mentioned in her funeral notice ?   

(I think the William Percy SIMMONS d.1965 found in Sydenham Cem. by "Kea", is very probably Jane TAYLOR's son - in which case he is still alive at the time of his mother's death) ?

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Re: Jane MORROW ex County Cavan to Christchurch NZ
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 08 May 08 23:59 BST (UK) »

Hi,

If William was known as Simmons perhaps he was brought up by his father? Might account for him not being mentioned in his mother's  death notice. But interesting that at his marriage only his mother's name was given for "parents".

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Re: Jane MORROW ex County Cavan to Christchurch NZ
« Reply #32 on: Friday 09 May 08 01:13 BST (UK) »


 But interesting that at his marriage only his mother's name was given for "parents".


Hi Stephanie

Great thinking !     

And son Arthur was born Sept. 1907 - his mother Jane married TAYLOR in 1908 ?

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Re: Jane MORROW ex County Cavan to Christchurch NZ
« Reply #33 on: Friday 09 May 08 01:51 BST (UK) »

some more  ....

William Percy SIMMONS buried (same plot) with William David SIMMONS (d. 1934 - b.c. 1880) at Sydenham Cemetery Huh
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Re: Jane MORROW ex County Cavan to Christchurch NZ
« Reply #34 on: Friday 09 May 08 02:07 BST (UK) »


Nothing to suggest Arthur changed his name and I would think a Mr Simmons

 might be a prime candidate for the father of William and maybe Arthur too.
  Sorry Mk2 you are right,  I must have had a blonde moment or senior one,  didn't see the Simmons in brackets!!
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FARROW - SUFFOLK
FARROW - CHRISTCHURCH, NZ
SIMKIN - BURY ST EDMUND'S, SUFFOLK
MORROW - CAVAN IRELAND
HERRON - IRELAND, LIVERPOOL, NEW ZEALAND
BORTHWICK - MID LOTHIAN SCOTLAND
HERBERT - MIDLOTHIAN - SCOT - SOUTH OTAGO - NEW ZEALAND
SMALL - SOUTH OTAGO, NZ
PRESSNEY / PRESTNEY - ESSEX, SUFFOLK
GREEN -  SUFFOLK
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Re: Jane MORROW ex County Cavan to Christchurch NZ
« Reply #35 on: Friday 09 May 08 02:11 BST (UK) »

Wells girls and boys,  you've certainly given this rootschatter something to think about,  probably over a few drinks! Grin

Again...........a big THANKS Wink

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FARROW - SUFFOLK
FARROW - CHRISTCHURCH, NZ
SIMKIN - BURY ST EDMUND'S, SUFFOLK
MORROW - CAVAN IRELAND
HERRON - IRELAND, LIVERPOOL, NEW ZEALAND
BORTHWICK - MID LOTHIAN SCOTLAND
HERBERT - MIDLOTHIAN - SCOT - SOUTH OTAGO - NEW ZEALAND
SMALL - SOUTH OTAGO, NZ
PRESSNEY / PRESTNEY - ESSEX, SUFFOLK
GREEN -  SUFFOLK
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Re: Jane MORROW ex County Cavan to Christchurch NZ
« Reply #36 on: Friday 09 May 08 02:31 BST (UK) »

Hi Keeweegal

Just off to the library shortly (if I can drag myself away from 'me 'puter) .... so whilst I'm there,  will see if I can dig up anything further of interest for these families.    (Will have to put "my drinks" off till later in the day).      Grin

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Re: Jane MORROW ex County Cavan to Christchurch NZ
« Reply #37 on: Friday 09 May 08 02:39 BST (UK) »

some more  ....

William Percy SIMMONS buried (same plot) with William David SIMMONS (d. 1934 - b.c. 1880) at Sydenham Cemetery Huh

Oooh well done Lu! I might just have to get on down there and have a look for a headstone!

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Re: Jane MORROW ex County Cavan to Christchurch NZ
« Reply #38 on: Friday 09 May 08 03:46 BST (UK) »

Hi Stephanie

Mmmm ... this is turning into one of those exciting hunts,  huh ?

It just keeps getting "curiouser and curiouser".    Smiley

Lu

PS:   Can't see anything on Marriage Index which looks like a Wm. David or Wm. marrying.   
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Re: Jane MORROW ex County Cavan to Christchurch NZ
« Reply #39 on: Friday 09 May 08 04:39 BST (UK) »

Hi all,

Couldn't resist a quick trip to Sydenham Cemetery (had to go out anyway  Wink). Found the grave of William Percy and William David Simmons, but not much more to go  on - just names and dates on the very simple headstones. But William Percy served with the NZ Infantry (14998).
However can't find any military records for him under Simmons or Herron. Have tried Archives and Auckland Cenotaph site.
William Percy's divorce record is at CHCH Archives and that will have his marriage certificate ...

Stephanie

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Re: Jane MORROW ex County Cavan to Christchurch NZ
« Reply #40 on: Friday 09 May 08 09:03 BST (UK) »

Hi All   

Well done (again) Stephanie !    Smiley      So each had a separate headstone ?

(I've got some new info too ... will deliver it up shortly - need  to watch the footy right now).   Grin

William Percy's army record (WWII) is likely held at Trentham (Wellington) ?

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Re: Jane MORROW ex County Cavan to Christchurch NZ
« Reply #41 on: Friday 09 May 08 09:07 BST (UK) »

Hello you two,  I owe you really big drinks....enjoy the footy,  they play funny footy here ....

Thx heaps

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FARROW - CHRISTCHURCH, NZ
SIMKIN - BURY ST EDMUND'S, SUFFOLK
MORROW - CAVAN IRELAND
HERRON - IRELAND, LIVERPOOL, NEW ZEALAND
BORTHWICK - MID LOTHIAN SCOTLAND
HERBERT - MIDLOTHIAN - SCOT - SOUTH OTAGO - NEW ZEALAND
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PRESSNEY / PRESTNEY - ESSEX, SUFFOLK
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Re: Jane MORROW ex County Cavan to Christchurch NZ
« Reply #42 on: Friday 09 May 08 10:59 BST (UK) »

Hi Keeweegal and Stephanie

[Yeah ... they have funny beer there too ... so if it's all right, I'll just order, a cold Lion Brown ?]    Grin

Found death notices for both Wm. P. and Wm. D. SIMMONS but annoyingly, neither contain info which might connect the two of them.

"SIMMONS - On November 23rd (1934) at Christchurch Hospital, William David, late of 65 Kingsley Street, Sydenham, in his 54th year " :
    (Funeral Director was - John RHIND)
[Source:  "The Press" (ChCh) - 24 November 1934] :

'SIMMONS - William Percy (late of King Street, Sydenham)
On 24 October 1965 at Christchurch, devoted friend of ------
-------  (name of couple) ------   , aged 63 years (suddenly).
Late 2nd NZEF Reg. No. 14998 - ex POW (Germany). "
[Will PM you the balance of this]
 - Lamb A. and Hayward Ltd.  - Funeral Directors -
[Source:  "The Press" - 25 October 1965] :

[Stephanie may know this ?   Is there both a King Street and a Kingsley Street, in Sydenham ? ]

So a wee bit disappointing - might need to see if they are at a common address on Electoral rolls ?

Some more to follow (... and a surprise)    Lips Sealed

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Re: Jane MORROW ex County Cavan to Christchurch NZ
« Reply #43 on: Friday 09 May 08 11:34 BST (UK) »

Surprise Number One     Smiley

From NZ Death Index -


DEATHS  1886

HERRON  -  Jane  [Folio # 1874] - Reg'd. Christchurch

So yes ... the official record spells her name as
                              HERRON    !

[Keeweegal - I really think this is who you are looking for].

Jane didn't appear on any electoral rolls with John Gunning HERRON (1893 - 1914).

Lu
   
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Re: Jane MORROW ex County Cavan to Christchurch NZ
« Reply #44 on: Friday 09 May 08 11:40 BST (UK) »

[Stephanie may know this ?   Is there both a King Street and a Kingsley Street, in Sydenham ? ]

Yes. Just checked my map.

I agreee with Lu that it's Keeweegal's Jane Herron who died 1886.  Smiley

Waiting for the next surprise ......

Stephanie
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