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Re: Silas Boam
« Reply #60 on: Saturday 17 May 08 01:52 BST (UK) »

Several months ago, I found a census with...birth date, month & occupation and a slightly changed name which matched the fellows information on his CEF signup exactly.The occupation matched the person being searched for & The CEF information also had as contact back in U.K. sister, at a known address.
The researcher believed the CEF signups were correct due to the sister's info....but refused to believe that the matching census entry that I found was correct ...
   So it still could be your man....back then documentation didn't need to have correct information, it seems, and so people were able to randomly change information about themselves over the years.
..Strange but true...wouldn't you agree that this has happened on numerous queries, Karen? Not your gang of, course ... Roll Eyes

I say this because the occupation  ( & religion) matched in 1881 and 1871, did it not?and he disappeared from Canada, then appeared in U.S....so it surely seems to be the right man...
Undecided  J.J.
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Plus there is no evidence of any other Silas Boam born England
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Re: Silas Boam
« Reply #61 on: Saturday 17 May 08 02:08 BST (UK) »

Do you have a local LDS where you can order in the microfilm to view?  Smiley J.J.
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« Reply #62 on: Saturday 17 May 08 10:17 BST (UK) »

I’ve just been going back over the various dates and ages that we know about for Silas (ignoring births of children):


Dec 20 1840 – spurious birthdate in Shawnee County burial records and probably on headstone ( ? is that the birthdate he gave on his naturalisation application?)
Jan 9 1846 – officially born in Derby England
Feb 8 1846 – baptized St Peter’s Derby
Feb 17 1846 – date of registration of birth
(added) Dec 25 1849 - birthdate given on 1901 application for practice certificate
1851 census in Derby aged 5
1861 census in Derby aged 15 – a turner in an Iron Foundry
1865 – year of arrival in US per the 1900 and 1910 censuses (– he was only 19 – a minor – did he falsify his birthdate to facilitate passage/immigration? )
(added) August 3 1867 - 2 items of mail waiting at Hamilton Ontario Post Office
Dec 22 1868 – marriage in Hamilton Ontario - age given as 23 ( but he was only 22, nearly 23 … bride Annie Church was 25… did he want to appear a little older ?) Right birthplace, right parents.
1871 census in Ontario age 22 ( is that a badly transcribed 27?) - machinist
1879 marriage in Buffalo – to Charlotte Priscilla Borland - need more details
1880 US census aged 31 ( he was actually 34 ) – machinist - with Charlotte
1885 Kansas census age 37 ( he was 39) – doctor – with Charlotte
1895 Kansas census age 49 (correct!) – with Charlotte P.
1900 US census age 52 (should be 54). Birthdate given as Dec 1847
1905 Kansas census 55 (should be 59)
1910 US census 62 (should be 64)
Nov 15 1916 dies aged 70 (correct) per obituary (Derby birthplace confirmed) and US deceased doctors list.

So – yes I still need to chase down the marriage details in Buffalo!

Presumably I can order the microfilm in the LDS Family History Centre in London - I've never used one before..
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Re: Silas Boam
« Reply #63 on: Saturday 17 May 08 22:56 BST (UK) »

As simple as using a microfilm reader....turn a crank and trawl through the results...They'll show you how if you haven't used one....It's the wait which is a pain so order iit in right away...Plus you need to do this in person, as they don't just take your word for it over the phone, you need to fill in a little form ( pay the applicable ordering fee) and such, unless others are different than mine....
So the task is simple, just the wait is the pain.... Grin 

If you are wanting other details on other ancestors, you might just as well order all at the same time and make use of the trip and time to travel to your centre...
Mine's across the city which doesn't sound far in theory, but it's about an hour away....Need to pack a lunch when going there!
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Re: Silas Boam
« Reply #64 on: Monday 02 June 08 11:53 BST (UK) »

Just received another package of goodies, this time from the Kansas State Historical Society:

- 5 obituaries

- Application for a Practice Certificate - Kansas State Board of Medical Registration and Examination - June 25 1901

- Sworn and notarised deposition in support of his Application dated June 25 1901

According to the Application papers, Silas was born December 25th 1849 in Derby. He studied medicine at "Physicians and Surgeons, Birmingham, England" from "about" 26 September 1868 to 26 March 1872. 

In addition, he says that he attended Buffalo University School of Medicine from September 1881 to March 1883.

He enclosed a diploma with the application statement.

If we have the right Silas Boam ( and there don't appear to be any other possibilities) then he was in Ontario 1868-1870. Another discrepancy to add to the birthdate confusion.  I'll see if I can track down some college archives in Birmingham.

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« Reply #65 on: Monday 02 June 08 14:38 BST (UK) »



Boy ! that is a nice package of goodies !!  Smiley Smiley

I find it hard to believe though Shaun that there would be too many "Silas Boam" to choose from .... unless they were family !! Smiley Smiley Smiley

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« Reply #66 on: Monday 02 June 08 15:08 BST (UK) »

This may be the explanation of the birthday discrepancy!

"... parents were not bound to give birth information unless requested by the Registrar. Some were not truthful about the date of birth, as they had to pay if the registration was more than 6 weeks after the birth. Some parents thought baptism was a legal alternative."

http://www.devon.gov.uk/index/democracycommunities/neighbourhoods-villages/record_office/family_history_3/civil_registration.htm

In this case the birth was registered on 17 February 1846 - which would have been 8 weeks after the birth if it took place around 25th December.  So did they move  the date on a couple of weeks to avoid financial penalty?

Silas did of course put the wrong birth year on his application for a practice certificate.... making himself 4 years younger...perhaps to fit in with the date he's given for starting medical school (1868).  1868  was an important year for the development of the medical school in Birmingham ....

http://www.medicine.bham.ac.uk/histmed/history.shtml
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« Reply #67 on: Monday 02 June 08 17:42 BST (UK) »

Paper of Record has a hit for him. In the Hamilton Observer, Saturday, August 3, 1867, there was a letter for him at the Hamilton post office (just search on Boam).  Might be a middle initial 'A' there.

You also might be interested in a book called "More notices from Ontario's Methodist papers, 1858-1872.", which includes records from the Canada Christian advocate, in Hamilton.
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« Reply #68 on: Monday 02 June 08 18:02 BST (UK) »

Looks like a fantastic resource, thanks Jorose. Never come across this before.
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« Reply #69 on: Monday 02 June 08 18:29 BST (UK) »

If anyone has access to that book "More notices from Ontario's Methodist papers, 1858-1872" as mentioned by Jorose, would welcome a look-up for Silas Boam. 
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« Reply #70 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 17:12 BST (UK) »

It looks like Silas may have been less than truthful about his qualifications.

I just received this from the Buffalo University Archives:

"I am writing in response to your request for information on Silas Boam, who you believe attended the University at Buffalo School of Medicine from 1881-1883.  Unfortunately we were unable to find any records on him.  He is not listed in our "Medical Alumni Catalogue" which lists all the graduates of the medical school from 1846 to 1978.  We checked all the graduating classes from 1870-1895 and did not find his name."
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« Reply #71 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 18:38 BST (UK) »

If anyone has access to that book "More notices from Ontario's Methodist papers, 1858-1872" as mentioned by Jorose, would welcome a look-up for Silas Boam. 

Did you see the price of that book ??  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Shocked  Shocked

......... anyways I called the library ... they said they would try and get it and give me a call !!  Smiley Smiley

Sorry about Buffalo ! .....  Undecided but didn't you get a diploma and application from there ??  Undecided
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« Reply #72 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 19:09 BST (UK) »

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Sorry about Buffalo ! .....   but didn't you get a diploma and application from there


What I got from the Kansas State Historical Society (as well as the obituaries) was a copy of Silas' application for a practice certificate in 1901; on this form and in an accompanying sworn deposition he claimed to have attended Buffalo University School of Medicine from September 1881 to March 1883. He also claimed to have studied medicine at "Physicians and Surgeons, Birmingham, England" from "about" 26 September 1868 to 26 March 1872. The Deposition required him to affirm that he was the person named on the diploma; and the record shows that a diploma was returned to him. But I don't know what the diploma said.

I'm still waiting to hear back from the History of Medicine Department at Birmingham University but it's early days. However unless Silas got his dates badly mixed up it seems unlikely that he could have studied there, given that we know he was a factory worker in Ontario in 1868-1870.  Come to that, we know he was a factory worker in Buffalo in 1880 !

I suspect that he did some evening classes in medicine in Buffalo, and winged it from there. 

Anyway, qualified or not, the obituaries suggest that he was a highly respected physician in Topeka City, and to have cared deeply for his patients and their families. 
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« Reply #73 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 19:18 BST (UK) »

I wonder what was around in Buffalo at the time that would offer such courses?

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« Reply #74 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 19:40 BST (UK) »



Dufuss Annie can't get into this ... want to try Shaun ??  Roll Eyes


New York Medical Journal
1887
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... November loth, Dr. Alexander Beith, aged seventy-six years. BOAM. — In Topeka,
Kan., on Wednesday, November 1 5th, Dr. Silas A. Boam, aged seventy ...

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