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gap in family tree
« on: Sunday 04 May 08 12:24 BST (UK) »

Trying to trace what happened to  a member of our extended family. His name was George Walter Roche, born 1900 in London. We think he emigrated to N.Z in 1928 because we found a George Walter Roche on the passenger list of the Rimutaka. Don't know how to proceed. Advice appreciated.
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Re: gap in family tree
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 May 08 12:49 BST (UK) »

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nzbound/    Early Shipping

http://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action  Shipping 1890 +

http://archway.archives.govt.nz/   National Archives, Wills +

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast   Old NZ Newspapers

http://www.purewa.co.nz/search.asp  A large Auckland cemetery

http://www.wellington.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/search/search.php  Wellington “

http://librarydata.christchurch.org.nz/Cemeteries/  Christchurch “

http://www.genealogy.org.nz/Sales_11.aspx    Society of Genealogists

http://www.familysearch.org/   IGI

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm  Free NSW indexes
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Re: gap in family tree
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 May 08 12:52 BST (UK) »


Married Laura Winifred Adams    in 1930    Smiley
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Re: gap in family tree
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 May 08 13:36 BST (UK) »

many thanks for prompt replies.
Wow! how do i find out more about Laura Winifred Adams. this genealogy thing is addictive!
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Re: gap in family tree
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 May 08 03:48 BST (UK) »


Wow! how do i find out more about Laura Winifred Adams.

Hi Diggit

The marriage record for George Walter ROCHE and Laura ADAMS should offer you a good deal of information with which to advance your search.

Details at ~

http://www.bdm.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/

[It is recommended that you purchase a "printout" (rather than a certificate) as this is a less-expensive option and also generally offers more information].

Mk-2 Zephyr has already mentioned that the marriage took place in 1930.

The reference from the NZ Marriage Index is
>  George Walter ROCHE m. Laura Winifred ADAMS - 1930 [Folio # 06723] :  [Note:   This index does not state the place of marriage]:

Good luck with your search.


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Re: gap in family tree
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 May 08 08:08 BST (UK) »

Many thanks Lucy2,
i am following that up now, thanks for the links.
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Re: gap in family tree
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 May 08 11:45 BST (UK) »

http://www.bdm.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/

Lucy2
I am afraid i still have L plates on my computer and i am not having much luck with this site.

how do i get into the marriage index?

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 May 08 13:34 BST (UK) »


the Marriage index we use is a Society of Genealogists CD, which can be bought from them on the SOG link above.


or there are fiche in most local librarys.

There are no online searchable indexes for births, deaths or marriages for NZ records.   Sad
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 May 08 14:17 BST (UK) »

Mk 2 Zephyr
thank you for that information - as i said i am very new to this, and thank you for your help.
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Re: gap in family tree
« Reply #9 on: Monday 05 May 08 17:31 BST (UK) »

Hi Diggit

I see Zephyr has sorted things out for you already.

Sorry, yes ... I should have explained that the web link led to the "details for purchasing certificates or printouts".

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 09 May 08 08:40 BST (UK) »

Thanks again - have sent for printout of marriage cert. Looked at wellington cemeteries online and found details of Laura Winifred Roche but no sign of George Walter so i am now wondering if he either died in WW11 or divorced and moved on again.
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 29 June 08 13:59 BST (UK) »

hi everyone.
following the advice you gave me i sent for and received a printout of the marriage details of George Walter Roche and Laura Winifred Adams - this provided the additional information that they were divorced in 1952. Is there any way i can find out if they had any children?
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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 29 June 08 15:34 BST (UK) »

Hi Diggit

The divorce record would / should, contain information on any children of the union.     (I don't see a divorce for this couple on the Archives NZ website ....  not all records though are listed online .... but they (Archives), do have an in-house register of divorce records).     

Unfortunately, NZ death records, only list the "ages of living issue" so obtaining the death certificate for Laura, wouldn't give you a great amount of information about any children.
However, there may have been a funeral notice for her  ...  my local library has filmed newspapers - I'll check in the next week  (might just save you the expense of getting the divorce record. )  Grin

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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 29 June 08 16:19 BST (UK) »

Thanks Lucy2 that is very kind of you.  The marriage printout is overstamped saying decree absolute - i think it is 4th June 1952 - bit blurred. He seems to have had an 'interesting' life, i have found another wife and 2 children before he went to NZ (but haven't found a divorce!). I have found his NZ wife in Karori cemetery but not him so i am wondering if he returned to UK.
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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 05:06 BST (UK) »



 He seems to have had an 'interesting' life, i have found  another wife and 2 children before he went to NZ (but haven't found a divorce!).


  Roll Eyes        Mmmm .... interesting.     Wink


   .....    so i am wondering if he returned to UK.


Hi  Diggit

Unfortunately not really able to search records from this end, for anyone returning to the UK.

It may be (even though his NZ wife is buried in Wellington), that George is buried elsewhere in the country?

Perhaps if you add here, the date and place of his marriage to Laura, it may give us a clue as to where else we could look for a burial for George.

Lu

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