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Can some one help??
« on: Friday 09 May 08 07:06 BST (UK) »

Hi im new to this site.
I was hoping that someone might be able to help me find out about my  grandfather, and great grandfather? His name is Aubery Albert Douglas. Born 1/9/1906 in Wellington, New Zealand. Died 28/4/78 in east Melbourne, vic, Aust.
His father was Aubery Douglas, born about 1873, in Cincinatta, Ohio. USA.
His Mother was Ivy Ethel May Fuller, born about 1886 in NSW, Aust
They were married in March 1904 in New Zealand..
I would love know about when they went to NZ and When they left NZ.
And if anybody could put me in the right derection on finding out more about my GGF.
thanks in avance
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Re: Can some one help??
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 May 08 08:09 BST (UK) »

Hi Vikamen,

Welcome to Rootschat.

Was Aubrey Douglas a performer of some kind? I did a quick search on Papers Past (a digitised and searchable collection of old NZ newspapers) and there were lots of hits - most of them about his performances with various theatre troops around NZ  1901 to 1906.
Use the "exact phrase" search option and enter Aubrey Douglas.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

He was a "coon delineator" and burnt cork artist!   Huh The mind boggles - perhaps some kind of black and white minstrels act.

Good luck.  I'm sure others will come up with more info for you.

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Re: Can some one help??
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 May 08 09:03 BST (UK) »

Hi Vikamen

Have you got his death cert, as that should say how long he was in Aust?


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Re: Can some one help??
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 May 08 20:07 BST (UK) »

Still here 1919
Wellington Central Electoral Roll: Aubrey Douglas

Ahh but looking further there may have been 2 Aubreys..

Marriage Aubrey Frederick Douglas 1919 to Florence Elenor Hughes

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Re: Can some one help??
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 May 08 04:15 BST (UK) »


His father was Aubery Douglas, born about 1873, in Cincinatta, Ohio. USA.
His Mother was Ivy Ethel May Fuller, born about 1886 in NSW, Aust
They were married in March 1904 in New Zealand..

Hi Vikamen  (and again, welcome)    Smiley

If  Aubrey DOUGLAS (the "performer") is yours, then as a member of an entertainment troupe, he was likely involved in a lot of frequent travel - (possibly much of it between Australia and NZ).     Do you know if his wife, Ivy Ethel May FULLER, was a member of the famous FULLER family who were involved in entertainment and theatre ?   (Some of the Fuller family apparently settled in NZ).

Incidentally, the NZ Marriage Index doesn't show a marriage for Aubrey DOUGLAS and Ivy E.M. FULLER ?
Although their son was born in NZ, perhaps they married elsewhere ?

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Re: Can some one help??
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 May 08 08:16 BST (UK) »

Hi, we were told that Aubrey(GGF) was supose to be a sports reporter?? Following the rugby??? But the peformer sounds more true to me as his son, Aubrey Albert was nicknamed Bing after Bing Crossby. He sang and was a drumer. Thinking that maybe he got that from his father and maybe his mother???  Unfortunately my GF lied about where he came from and how old he was. We only found out that he was born in N.Z after he died.. So i dont know much at all about him or his parents. There is supose to be a sister named after a N.Z. bird?? But has not been   seen of since her teens...  Ivy(GGM) was found dead,at 38 yrs,  with the police and coroner in attendence.?? (in melbourne)
This is all information passed on by my aunty, must ask for copies of what she has... My father has a letter from an aunty Ettie?? who lived in N.Z. Sounds like she had spent time with my father then had gone back/moved to  N.Z. My father was vey young when he got this letter...
Thanks to every one whp has repiled to me..
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 May 08 21:58 BST (UK) »

Hi Vikamen,

It sounds like a really interesting family.  Smiley
Lu might well be right about the Fuller connection. Looking at some of the many articles in Papers Past, Aubrey worked for Fullers Entertainment Company among others.

Do you have your grandfather's birth certificate or as Bren asked - his death certificate?
How sure are you about your great-grandfather's place and date of birth? As you have found out, family stories are not always accurate.  Smiley It's best to work with the facts from official records. Do you know where and where he died?

In the 1880 US Census (free on Family Search) there is an Aubrey H Douglass, born 1871, Minnesota.  Undecided

I would definitely press your aunty for more information.  Smiley

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 May 08 22:02 BST (UK) »

Hi again,

There is an Aubrey Samuel H.B. Douglas buried at Karori Cemetery, Wellington, 31 March 1920, aged 46.
Age fits.

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Re: Can some one help??
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 May 08 22:51 BST (UK) »

Should actually check fiche for the birth as well.
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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 11 May 08 07:49 BST (UK) »

Thanks will look into all of that. What does fiche mean?? I dont have birth or death certs or any of them Embarrassed Will have to get my aunty to send copies of what she has. thanks again everyone for youe help.  How do i find out more about the Fullers? Ivy Fuller's parents were Edward Fuller and Dorothy Davis bbt 1860..
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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 11 May 08 10:45 BST (UK) »

How do i find out more about the Fullers? Ivy Fuller's parents were Edward Fuller and Dorothy Davis bbt 1860..

Hi again Vikamen

You earlier mentioned that Ivy FULLER was born in Australia - perhaps you could look for a record of her parents marriage there?     (I did look at the NSW -  BDM online but couldn't see a likely match ... so maybe Victoria is worth checking).

Edward and Dorothy FULLER may also have died in
Australia .... so if you can find their death records, then you might obtain some useful information from those.

There are lots of very helpful people on the RootsChat - Australia board so if you need assistance, then post a query there.   

Good luck.    Smiley

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Re: Can some one help??
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 11 May 08 11:45 BST (UK) »


                        What does fiche mean??


Hi Vikamen

The microfiche format allows a great amount of information to be stored in a small space.

Microfiche - fiche for short - (pronounced "feesh"), is a smallish flat piece of film for storing information such as publications, documents, in a miniature form.    Items are photographed and then transferred to film.

Because the information is greatly reduced in size, you need to view the fiche in a microfiche reader, which magnifies it.
[If you think of those "Viewmaster thingee's" ( that a lot of us had when we were kids) then it's quite similar ].


             Should actually check fiche for the birth as well.


What Zephyr means here, is that the birth records ( which are on microfiche film) should be checked .

Hope that answers your question ?     Smiley

Lu 

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