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Re: Please help find my lost grandmother!
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 17:09 BST (UK) »

They were in Newhaven in 1891,

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5 Sussex terrace Newhaven
James 22 bn Brighton
Mary L 22 bn Kent Appledore
JAmes V  2 mths bn Heathfield
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Re: Please help find my lost grandmother!
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 17:11 BST (UK) »

They married in Brighton

Jan/Feb/Mar 1891
James Dunk
also on page Mary Louisa Leever or Leeves
Brighton reg distr ref 2b 345
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Re: Please help find my lost grandmother!
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 17:14 BST (UK) »

i like your thinknig Jan

But I think that Minnie E is Minnie Eliza as there is a birth:

Jul/Aug/Sep 1893
portsea reg distr
Minnie Eliza Dibden
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Re: Please help find my lost grandmother!
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 17:18 BST (UK) »

Jan, that's certainly worth investigating! I'll see what the census has to say about the Dibdens! Thanks for that. Smiley

Lizdb, yes that's them!!(the Dunks,Leeves) I will still look at the census for the Dibdens but I think you're right about the name Cry
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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 17:19 BST (UK) »

Auntie MAudie (Beatrice) 's big brother JAmes V marries in 1919 to Louisa A R Knight
Jul/Aug/Sep 1919 Brighton reg distr ref 2b 665

and they have two daughters, in 1920 and 1924 - wont post details in case they are alive today - but theyare on FreeBMD (I got them on the ancestry version) just key in Dunk and mums maiden name Knight. Both in Brighton area.
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Re: Please help find my lost grandmother!
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 17:21 BST (UK) »

i like your thinknig Jan

But I think that Minnie E is Minnie Eliza as there is a birth:

Jul/Aug/Sep 1893
portsea reg distr
Minnie Eliza Dibden


Think that rather puts the mockers on my lateral thinking  Grin

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Re: Please help find my lost grandmother!
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 17:35 BST (UK) »

Lizdb.... Well that's solved a mystery! I always knew Louisa as Auntie Alice which is obviously why I've never been able to find her in the census!. I found her maiden name by finding her four children in the births.I knew three of the children personally, the fourth,"Little Olive" died at a young age.They are all dead now. The two brothers died within two days of each other-----both totally unexpected and the last remaining girl died about three years ago. Pity I didn't get around to asking about Minnie.Maud was particularly close to her niece as indeed was my own mother.
Thanks! this is good, isn't it?
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Re: Please help find my lost grandmother!
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 17:39 BST (UK) »

the two births I found were Betty B and Olive M A.

Sad they are all deceased now. I was hoping we could track one down to see if they had any memories of Minnie.

Just one thing about her - you say the workhouse record is plain Minnie Read. Where is the Eugenie bit found? Is it just on young Frank's birth cert?
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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 18:19 BST (UK) »

Betty Dunk was the one I probably knew best.
Yes, Frank's birth cert says Minnie Eugenie Read, General Servant(domestic) of 25 Silver Street Southsea. Under Signature, Description and Residence of Informant it says--- M.E.Read --Mother  265 Milton Road Portsmouth. He was born 28 Oct 1915 and the birth was registered 8 Nov 1915. I suppose she would have had a lying-in period before returning to Silver Street?Frank was baptised 19 November 1915 in G Flat. Haven't been able to discover what G Flat means.It did have something to do with the Workhouse. Minnie admitted herself and Frank into the Workhouse 15 Feb 1916 and discharged them the same day. I'm thinking that could have been for a check up.I'm imagining that she had to go to the Workhouse to give birth because I believe you had to pay to go to a "proper"hospital? All very sad---and intriguing.
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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 21:01 BST (UK) »

What does the birth cert say under "where born" - does that specify the work house?
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Re: Please help find my lost grandmother!
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 07 May 08 13:49 BST (UK) »

Hi, no it states 265 Milton road, Portsmouth.  We  have since found out that that was The Workhouse.  Workhouses seem to state their address on birth certificates.  We have seen the Workhouse birth record book which clearly states Frank being born there to Minnie Read in 1915.
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