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Topic: The Lusitania Sinking & Philips Park Cemetery (Read 4393 times)
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MancsMan
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Thought I'd share this new venture with my fellow rootchatters  coz I know they luv a challenge
I am trying to locate a family who perished on the Liner Lusitania in 1915.
I have no idea who they were, but they are reported to be buried in Philips Park Cemetery, Manchester.
If I can find the grave and photograph it, It will be uploaded to the findagrave.com website
Ken
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It will be a few days before they clear on the findagrave website, but I have placed the 2 graves photos and info relating to the two survivors of the Charge of the Lightbrigade, buried at Philips Park
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emmsthheight
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Hi Ken and Migky
Here are two of the same family, though only one was on the Lusitania, on the way to visit her family.
Mary Lovett, living in America was going to visit her family in Drolesdon.
William Lovett of Droylesdon died on a different occasion. Related?
http://www.billnkaz.demon.co.uk/droymem3.htm
It'd be nice to find out for the Anniversary of the sinking wouldn't it?
I've been looking out for James Hoey who also perished, He was from Meath but I think also linked to Salford/Manchester.
Best wishes
Emms
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emmsthheight
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PS Full details:
Miss Mary Lovett, civilian,
Living: Falls River Mass. USA but native of Droylesden.
Going to visit family in Fairfield Rd Droylesdon.
Drowned at sea on SS Lusiitania
Also: (Not on Lusitania)
William Lovett, Stoker 1st Class L/24481, HMS Invincible., RN
Son of Edward and Ellen Lovett, 18 Queen St, Droylsden.
Died 31st May, 1916, aged 26.
Killed in Action, Battle of Jutland.
LOVETT. WILLIAM. Stoker 1st Class. K/24481.
Also, Portsmouth Memorial.
A nice local site. Can we have them in the resources? Not sure how?
The wargraves in cemeteries are also on the Commonwealth Wargraves Site (CWGC), but it's much bigger and I didn't actually pin them down. It's nice to pin them down.
Question is, is there another grave? It does say one family, but they may not have the same name, or they may mean William.
Best wishes
Emms
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emmsthheight
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The Anniversary of the sinking if the
Liner SS Lusitania is tomorrow May 7th (1915)
A good time to remember them.
Emms
[Thank you Migky for the link. It also points out that this tragedy was probably significant in America entering the war.]
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MancsMan
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Hi Emms
Many thanks for your input - Just when you need the Manchester burial website 
We need to find out how old she was from the ships passenger list, any ideas on this ?
Just looking at that possible connection of Mary and William you have, I have been looking at the census info. We do find a Mary and William, but this one would be William's Aunty "nothing to say they are or not at the mo".
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If this is the lady she would be about 35 when the ship sank 
William was lost as sea so he would have no grave, so only looking for 1 grave
Ken
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MancsMan
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Nice one Dave and interesting read
I did a breakdown of Saloon, 2nd & 3rd class passengers - the list below all came from 2nd class - Fall River - were British - and titled Miss apart from the Mr
Wonder if they were together as a group? in different cabins
LOVETT, Miss Mary " Fall River, MA, USA
WOODCOCK, Miss Sarah Emma, British, Fall River, MA, USA
DEWHURST, Mr. William, British, Fall River, MA, USA
HIGGINBOTTOM, Miss Mary " Fall River, MA, USA
(Mary Higginbottom of Fall River, Massachusetts, United States, was on the Lusitania to go to England to comfort her parents whos sons and sons-in-law were in the Front for the British Army. On board the Lusitania, she shared a cabin with Phoebe Amory and Martha Whyatt. Mary was lost when the ship sank. Her body, if found, was not identified)
Ken
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bursy
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Hi Ken,
I wonder if this little Falls River group, were somehow related to each other, or was it the start of an Ex-Pat conclave. 
Dave
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BarbaraH
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There is a cryptic (to me anyway) listing on the Manchester Family History society's 'Back Issues' page which lists among the articles in issue 1558 ,Vol.37 No.1 2001 -"The Reverend David Lloyd-Lusitania Victim"
http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/Bookshop/mangen.htm
Which is a bit odd as the Rev Lloyd doesn't appear in the list Migky linked to - unless I missed him, which is very very possible .
Anyone got a copy of Issue 1558, vol 37, no 1, 2001 out there?
 Barbara
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bursy
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Hi Barbara,
His name was mis-spelt
From '' THE LUSITANIA RESOURCE''
Rev. DAVID LOYND, Second Cabin Passenger
Reverend David Loynd, 51, was born 12 November 1862 at 157 Park Street in Bolton, England. His father William was a cotton spinner. By 1903, David had met Alice Grimshaw who was from the Tottington area and they were married at the Bury Baptist Church.
Loynd did missionary work in Indiana among other places. When the ship was struck David and Alice got into a lifeboat with Albert and Gladys Bilicke, which spilled as it was being lowered.
Alice wrote a long letter to her family which was found on her body. A copy is on file at the Cunard Archives, Liverpool University.
Dave
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emmsthheight
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Hi
You've really moved this on since I saw it!
I've been trying to find something that mentions a date or age for Mary on the Lusiotania information but no success. I was looking for the burial search too, for something else but it sounds as if I'll have to hold fore.
Keep up the good work!
Emms
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bursy
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Hi Ken,
Looking at the Ellis Island admittance records for your 'group' of four, these are possibilities :-
Name - Sarah Emma Woodcack (sic)
Ethnicity - English
Residence - Oldham, England
Arrival - Oct 30 1914
Age - 30
Gender - F
Status - Single
Ship - Franconia
Departure Port - Liverpool
Name - Mary Higginbottom
Ethnicity - English
Residence - Manchester
Arrival - Aug 3 1892
Age - 32
Gender - F
Status - Single
Ship - Teutonic
Departure Port - Liverpool
Name - Mary Lovett
Ethnicity - English
Residence - ?
Arrival - Feb 25 1895
Age - 24
Gender - F
Status - Single
Ship - Etruria
Departure Port - Liverpool
Cannot find anything yet on William Dewhurst
Dave
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MancsMan
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A friend of mine has been in touch with Manchester Burials
No person called Lovett was buried in Philips Park at that time
The people that run
http://www.philipspark.org.uk/PhilipsPark/Medlock_Valley_Places/Philips_Park_Cemetery/
which says the reason for this hunt, don't know anything about the grave or who it is
The Head keeper of the graveyard has no idea either
So this is going to be a tough one to hunt down.
I will check the burials to see if any of the other names that Dave found show up at Philips Park.
If I get chance next week I will go to Manchester Central Library and check the newspapers for any clues.
Ken
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