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janet62
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please can anyone help my father and grandfather were called Robert James/john Osbourne Hancock I have found my grandfather as a child on 1891 census it states his father called Robert born abt 1862 in Torpoint cornwall this ties in as I have been tol;d his name was the same. Here is my problem I can't find a robert all I can find is a John Robert Osbourne Hancock 1862 St Germans ( all the right names but not in the right order ) Has anyone heard of them would appreciate any help 
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althea
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Hi
The St Germans reference certainly would be OK
See Genuki page:
The parish of Torpoint is in the St Germans Registration District and has been since 1st July 1837; there were sub-districts at Antony, St Germans and Saltash but they have now been abolished. The parish is now part of the Caradon District Council.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/Torpoint/
There are no others at FreeBMD, so looks pretty good option.
Where are they in the 1891 census?
Bye
Althea
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janet62
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thanks for that by 1891 they were in Bermonsey London on census it states wife Maud If I have correct marriage certificate it just says Robert Hancock and Maud Cushaw but on my grandfathers birth certificate it states father Robert John Osbourne Hancock mother Caroline Maud Hancock formerly Cushaw I think she was born Stoke Dameral Devon
The only other link I have is on above m/c it says father Robert Hancock deceased seaman
I have sent for John Robert Osbourne's b/c and this also says father Robert Hancock seaman looks like H M Aboukeer could i still be barking up wrong tree
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deb usa
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hi 
In 1871
Devonport, Stoke damerel, Fore street
Mary Jane SCOTT head mar 35 seaman's wife HMS Sphinx b Torpoint
OSBORNE HANCOCK son 9 b TORPOINT
Emily Hancock dau 6 b Torpoint
Lucy dau 4 b Torpoint
James Donovan boarder unm Seaman HMS India
now in 1881 in Bedmonsey, London we have
Hy SCOTT head mar 57 RN pensioner b Truro Cornwall
Mary wife 40 b Torpoint
Jno son 19 unm stewerd b TORPOINT ...is this John Robert Osborne b 1862?
Emily dau 17 b Torpoint
The children are both enumerated under the Scott surname!
still trying to find the marriage of Mary Jane Hancock (nee??) to Hy Scott
deb
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penfold, orchard, james , richards (travellers/romanies)
middleton, waterfield, skinner,adams, bray (devon, tiverton,silverton areas)
palmer,slack, smith, carnarton (cornwall)
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deb usa
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There is a marriage of
Robert Hancock and on same page ...Mary Pope, Sept q 1861, Truro
who is the mother on Robert's (1862) birth cert?
deb
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penfold, orchard, james , richards (travellers/romanies)
middleton, waterfield, skinner,adams, bray (devon, tiverton,silverton areas)
palmer,slack, smith, carnarton (cornwall)
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janet62
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Hi everyone thankyou for your messages I have found out that Mary Jane Hoyle mother on John Robert Osboune Hancock b/c (1862 Torpoint) was married to Robert Hancock seaman in 1855
I was contacted by someone who said she married a Harry? Scott in 1861 and the children at some point were called Scott but have got a Robert Hancocks Navy record and the 2 ships mentioned on M/c and b/c match up with dates so think I am on the right track was still in Navy untill 1868 also cannot fine a M/c for mary and harry Scott
My problem is could John Robert Osbourne be the 1891 and1901 census calling himself Robert the only link I have is both my grandfather (his son) and my father have the names Robert John/James Osbourne Hancock
I think there is a good chance 1871,1881 are the right census
By the way Deb my grandfather emigrated to Canada and lived sometime in the USA before returning to England but thats another story
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deb usa
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Hi Janet
I cannot see the marriage either 
when was your Granddad born and where? I will look at the 1891 and 1901.
deb
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penfold, orchard, james , richards (travellers/romanies)
middleton, waterfield, skinner,adams, bray (devon, tiverton,silverton areas)
palmer,slack, smith, carnarton (cornwall)
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janet62
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My grandad Robert James Osbourne Hancock was born 1883 registered in Newington Surrey England father Robert John Osbourne Hancock and Caroline Maud Cushaw At some point in his young life emigrated to Canada and became a Canadian coming back to England in Canadian Army ww1 married a girl from Liverpool and took her back after the war this is when i think he lived some time in USA he rode in Buffalo Bills Circus Something went wrong and he had his wife deported (so rumour says) but he must have come back because he was killed in the blitz 1940
Must say my father (now dead so I can say) left us when I was 5 after ww2 never to be seen again until I reached 50 thats why I am so interested
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deb usa
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ahhh okay Janet ..
I definitely think you have the right Robert in 1891 and 1901 !! Thank Goodness he always said he was born Torpoint! 
Do you think your dad went overseas too?
I will look for passenger lists.
deb
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penfold, orchard, james , richards (travellers/romanies)
middleton, waterfield, skinner,adams, bray (devon, tiverton,silverton areas)
palmer,slack, smith, carnarton (cornwall)
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deb usa
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wooohooooo Janet ...I have his Attestation Paper...he was in the Canadian Expeditionary Forces ...
pm me your email addy and I will forward them to you ...
deb
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penfold, orchard, james , richards (travellers/romanies)
middleton, waterfield, skinner,adams, bray (devon, tiverton,silverton areas)
palmer,slack, smith, carnarton (cornwall)
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deb usa
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Hi Janet
Where and when was your dad born?
deb
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penfold, orchard, james , richards (travellers/romanies)
middleton, waterfield, skinner,adams, bray (devon, tiverton,silverton areas)
palmer,slack, smith, carnarton (cornwall)
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janet62
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Hi Deb no he stayed in England he moved back to Cornwall be caused he loved it so but had no Idea that was where his family came from thats the information my half sister told me I have spoke to her a couple of times she has no knowledge of our grandad as i said when his wife came back so did children.
Sorry got that a bit wrong he (my dad ) was born 1917 in Birkenhead near Liverpool and he did go to Canada & USA with them he had a sister Elizabeth (Blanche?) Hancock born about 1920 in Canada I presume as no birth register here only death Thanks for you help
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janet62
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Hi Deb sent personal message with E-mail address hope you get it
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Hi janet
I think This may be their border crossing
From Canada via NY to Detroit
arrival date;24 jan 1922
Robert Hancock 38 mar read and write :yes, speaks English, painter,Canadian Citizen , last res; Windsor, Canada
May Hancock mar, 22
Robert son 4
Elizabeth ...she is transcibed as born 1821, Canada ...age on original looks like 11
name of nearest relative/friend ..Look like Sarah Hart, Windsor Canada
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penfold, orchard, james , richards (travellers/romanies)
middleton, waterfield, skinner,adams, bray (devon, tiverton,silverton areas)
palmer,slack, smith, carnarton (cornwall)
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janet62
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thanks age looks a bit wrong wonder if they meant iimonths as thats more like it
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