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1921 Death - NEVADA OR SEATTLE -UPDATED & COMPLETED
« on: Monday 05 May 08 16:30 BST (UK) »

Hi All  Smiley

I am trying to find out more about the sad death of my GG Uncle William Huggard.  He left Ireland, and left his wife Florrie and young son Kevin and went to Nevada, US on 22nd May 1903 -  he was a solicitor and possibly had been involved in some sort of professional misconduct.

He arrived on the Numidian, which had sailed from Glasgow and arrived on 22nd May 1903.   His last residence is given as Dublin, and his final destination is listed as New York, so possibly he started in New York, heard about the Gold Rush in Nevada and decided to try his luck there. 

He was a mine sampler in a goldmine, in Goldfield, Esmerelda County, Nevada.  I have his on the 1910 and 1920 census.  He sadly killed himself on 9th April 1921, and I would love to find out more about him.  I don't know where he died - I am presuming Nevada because that's where he had lived, but possibly Seattle, Washington, as I also have papers giving an address for him there. 

Since I don't have a County of death - or even a definite state, I can't apply for a death cert.  Any suggestions?

Thanks so much
Jaylay
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Re: 1921 Death - NEVADA OR SEATTLE?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 May 08 18:54 BST (UK) »

Have you tried contacting libraries in either state, to see if there is an obit? And here's an interesting link regarding Goldfield, if you haven't seen it.

http://www.ghosttowns.com/states/nv/goldfield.html

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Re: 1921 Death - NEVADA OR SEATTLE?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 May 08 19:09 BST (UK) »

Hi Kath

Thanks for your reply - I had not seen that website - looks really interesting.  I did contact the State Library in Nevada couple of months ago, but apart from an automated acknowledgement have heard nothing  Sad.  I haven't tried the Seattle Library - I will explore that.

I have the saddest letter from William to a brother in law back in Ireland, written four years after he went to the US.  It's several pages of rambling, sad, angry writing, describing money problems etc.  I'd just love to know what finally drove him to end his own life, fourteen years later.

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Re: 1921 Death - NEVADA OR SEATTLE?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 May 08 19:15 BST (UK) »

It could not have been an easy life. did he intend to send for his family, do you know? He was living as a "boarder" with the same woman in both census records.

You might have better luck contacting a more local library to Goldfield. They will be less busy and probably more willing to help. On that website was a picture of the cemetery, with a credit for the woman who took the picture. Maybe googling her or the cemetery will lead you to his grave.

Kath
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Re: 1921 Death - NEVADA OR SEATTLE?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 May 08 19:36 BST (UK) »

Thanks Kath - have googled Goldfield library and have a contact email for them - I'll get on that right away!

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 May 08 22:49 BST (UK) »

Keep me posted here. I am interested in what you find out. It is so sad, and such an interesting part of American history.

Kath
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Re: 1921 Death - NEVADA OR SEATTLE?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 02:16 BST (UK) »

There are several other sites that give good histories of Goldfield.  One has some pics of cemetery, but couldn't find listing of interments.

Tonopah, Nevada seems to have been the nearby area where a newspaper was published.  It might be possible that there is a notice of his death/burial. (Tonopah Daily Sun)

Goldfield rapidly declined in population as gold ran out: 30,000 in 1906; 5,000 in 1910; 1500 by 1920.

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Re: 1921 Death - NEVADA OR SEATTLE?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 11:08 BST (UK) »

With what Nick found, it must have been very depressing to still be there in 1920. Poor William, already being in rough shape. Maybe he had left by then. I think i would try to contact the library or newspaper in Nevada first, though. I it is a smaller area and might be easier to get an answer. Or simultaneously always works too.  Grin

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Re: 1921 Death - NEVADA OR SEATTLE?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 11:41 BST (UK) »

Have spent the morning googling Goldfield - you're right Kath - it cannot have been an easy life, though I can certainly see how one would have been drawn to such promised riches. 

Thanks Nick for that newspaper - I will get onto that also!

I have emailed the Goldfield library and will let you know what happens.  William was kind of the 'black sheep' of his family, the eldest of 13 children, from a very strict and upright Methodist family.  He seems to have rebelled against this most of his life.  The feeling amongst my older relatives, who had heard stories of 'Poor Uncle Willie' is that he never actually intended to send for his wife and son.

Jaylay

 
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Re: 1921 Death - NEVADA OR SEATTLE?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 13:22 BST (UK) »

Hi Jaylay
William completed a WW! Draft Registration on Sept 12, 1918.
He was living at 204 S. Franklin, Goldfield, and was employed by Goldfield Consolidated Mines as a Miner/sampler.
He was 44 years of age,  5'8", slender build, blue eyes, with fair hair.
He stated his closest relative as: Martin Huggard, Wexford, Ireland (father)
Of interest, he claims to have been naturalized.
If so, it probably would have been in Nevada...have not had a chance to look for appropriate records.
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Re: 1921 Death - NEVADA OR SEATTLE?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 13:34 BST (UK) »

Good find Grub. I think the 1910 census had him naturalized in 1910, so I would definitely say Nevada on that too.

Kath
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Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
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Re: 1921 Death - NEVADA OR SEATTLE?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 17:49 BST (UK) »

Thank you Valerie - great find!  I did not have that. 

The only reason I am thinking Seattle also is because William's brother Edward Hazelton Huggard, who emigrated to Canada, went from Canada to Seattle to visit 'his brother Wm' as stated on a passenger list I have, and it gives an address in Seattle, which I cannot make out properly but could be 745 18th (or 12th) St. No. (North?) Seattle.  It's from

SEATTLE PASSENGER & CREW LISTS - C.P. ATLANTIC

Edward H. Huggard, Immigrant, age 32, single male, civil engineer, from Ireland, last permanent residence Vancouver Canada. 

This was in May 1920, which could have been AFTER the 1920 US census was taken??  It was also less than a year before William died.

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Re: 1921 Death - NEVADA OR SEATTLE?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 18:10 BST (UK) »

Jaylay,

You may be on to something. I went to the 1920 census and it was done on January 2nd and 3rd, 1920. I would get in touch with the Seattle library. I'd even think about ordering the death cert.

http://www.seattledeathcertificate.com/

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Re: 1921 Death - NEVADA OR SEATTLE?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 19:44 BST (UK) »

OK friend,  here is the info you need.  You can order the death certificate from Washington State (or maybe Pierce County).

As you will see he appears to have died Apr 8 rather than 9, and was in Tacoma at the time rather than Seattle.  (They are only about 60 miles apart.)  You never stated if you knew parent's and wife's names... do the ones given fit?  Oops! just noticed you said in OP wife was Florrie...


If you have trouble figuring out how to order death cert, let me know.  I grew up in Seattle, and still live in Washington State.  Last I ordered one they were quite inexpensive.

Updated:  Can order by mail with check for $20 US as noted at http://www.doh.wa.gov/EHSPHL/CHS/cert.htm

or for unknown amount over internet using credit card.

Nick

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 20:13 BST (UK) »

You're a start Nick.  Grin
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