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Benjamin Robert Bellamy, marriage
« on: Monday 05 May 08 21:26 BST (UK) »
Hi, Benjamin Robert Bellamy married in weardale in dec 1889. as his sons middle name was walker i'm guessing that his wifes maiden name was walker, can anyone confirm this for me. she was called Mary Jane born in 1868 Ellis Hill n'land.
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Re: Benjamin Robert Bellamy, marriage
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 May 08 21:43 BST (UK) »
What other names appear in the same qtr, district and page as the marriage of Benjamin Robert Bellamy?

That's a far better strategem.
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Re: Benjamin Robert Bellamy, marriage
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 May 08 21:46 BST (UK) »
i'm not sure how to do that, i've always been puzzled on how ppl work out who married who.
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Re: Benjamin Robert Bellamy, marriage
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 May 08 21:50 BST (UK) »
look for the marriage on freebmd.

When you see the results, click on the page number and it will state the other names transcribed to that page.

After that' it's a process of elimination.

If there are two women; Phoebe and Eliza

If the wife's Eliza in census, then he didn't marry Phoebe...
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Walters in Middlesex(Pre-1875)
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Re: Benjamin Robert Bellamy, marriage
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 May 08 21:52 BST (UK) »

some counties are also well-represented in local bmds.

durham is one. http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/
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Re: Benjamin Robert Bellamy, marriage
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 May 08 22:01 BST (UK) »
There is only one other name in that quarter in Weardale - Mary Jane Dodd.
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Re: Benjamin Robert Bellamy, marriage
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 May 08 22:23 BST (UK) »
Here she is (probably) in 1871 census

RG10/4951 folio 56 page 6   
Ellis Hill, Hunstonworth, Weardale, Durham
DODD
James     Head 29  Shepherd  Cumberland     Alston
Mary    Wife 24         Durham Rookhope
Thomas    Son 4                  Rookhope
Mary J    Dau 3                     Hunstonworth   
Charles A Son  1                      "
John J    Son 2 months                        "

The marriage certificate would show you Mary Jane's father's name and occupation to be sure this is the right family

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Re: Benjamin Robert Bellamy, marriage
« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 May 08 22:27 BST (UK) »
No Walker in their marriage either, so perhaps it comes from the Bellamy side?

marriage  Sep 1866  Weardale    10a   313
Dodd    James   and  FORSTER    Mary        

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Re: Benjamin Robert Bellamy, marriage
« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 May 08 22:41 BST (UK) »
The WALKER is from the previous generation.
From earlier censuses Benjamin was born in Bedfordshire, son of William and Eliza Bellamy. William was unmarried in the 1861 census but started having children shortly after it.

Marriage:
Sep 1861
Bedford 3b 426
William Bellamy

There is no wife down for this reference, but there is:
Sep 1861
Bedford 3b 406
Eliza Walker

This is clearly the right person; there has been a transcription error.

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Re: Benjamin Robert Bellamy, marriage
« Reply #9 on: Monday 05 May 08 22:42 BST (UK) »
1871 RG10/4951 folio 29 page 11
45 Vicarages, Frosterley, Stanhope, Durham
BELLAMEY
William     Head 32 Quarryman   
Eliza    Wife 31       
William J  Son 9    Scholar   
Benjaman R Son  7      "
Kate E Dau 4           "
Annie M Dau 2       
Mary J  Dau  4 months   
all born Kempston Bedfordshire except Mary J born Stanhope Durham

their marriage Sep 1861 Bedford    3b 426
Bellamy    William   but on freebmd no spouse shown so you may need Benjamin's birth cert to find out his mother's maiden name    

edit: Richard, well done, that was my next idea, to look for a possible Walker in the same quarter  Smiley
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Re: Benjamin Robert Bellamy, marriage
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 16:58 BST (UK) »
WOW, thanks guys. thats going to help me make alot of progress with my tree which has been at a dead end for a while.
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Re: Benjamin Robert Bellamy, marriage
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 17:23 BST (UK) »
omg! i already have mary jane in my family tree, although i dont know why i'm surprised!
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