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Mary Takle
« on: Tuesday 06 May 08 04:16 BST (UK) »

I am trying to trace the parents of Mary they were James Takle & Sarah Land>mary was born 1829 she had a brother Richard 1821 can anyone help please
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Re: Mary Takle
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 08:01 BST (UK) »

Could you give us some possible locations Peter? Have you traced any of them on census records?

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Re: Mary Takle
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 23:05 BST (UK) »

Hi Diblet,

No I haven't been able to track them at all, the only info I have is from the death certificate of Richard listing his place of birth as Devon England and his parents as being James Takle & Sarah Land.   Mary's certificate lists Essex as the place of birth in 1829 and her parents being James  & Sarah.   They both migrated to Australia, Richard was here by February 1854, Mary had married a Robert Butson before they migrated, they were here by the 1860's, all settling in Yackandandah, Colony of Victoria, and all buried in Yackandandh Cemetery.   Richard was my G G Grandfather on my mothers side, he married an Irish girl in 1854 here at St Andrews, C of E , Parish of St Andrews, Sydney, Australia, they had 7 sons all born at Yackandandah.   I would appreciate any help or direction that you can give me please,   In the meantime look after yourself and thanks for you prompt reply.

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Peter
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Re: Mary Takle
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 May 08 11:36 BST (UK) »

Hi Peter

Well with the new info. you've come up with I checked FreeBMD to find a Robert Butson marrying a Mary. The only one it came up with was in Tiverton Reg. Dist. (Devon) in 1848 and that was a Robert Butson marrying a Mary WARD.

The surname Takle is very much a Devon/West Country one and there's not a single Takle in Essex on all FreeBMD!!!

Have you any more clues at all that may help unravel this mystery? Is it definitely Essex on her death cert?
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Re: Mary Takle
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 May 08 15:05 BST (UK) »

Hi Diblet,

I will ring a contact at BD&M Victoria and see if they can do a search for me tomorrow and hopefuly get back to you tomorrow night.   Also see if they married in Yackandandah Victoria, I have the marriage year of 1850.

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Peter
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Re: Mary Takle
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 May 08 05:55 BST (UK) »

Hi Diblet,

BD&M Victoria have Mary Takle/ Ward / Butson, from evidence it appears that Mary Takle & Mary Ward are the same person married to Robert Butson ,the had the following children, Mary Elizebeth  1861 - 1936, William  1866 - 1886 & Edwin 1868 - 1967, all buried at Yackandandah, Victoria Australia.   The birthplace for Mary is given as Bampton Devonshire & she was christened Essex 1829, there is no marriage for her here in Australia.   Hopefuly this may clarify the matter now, thankyou four your help to date.

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Re: Mary Takle
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 May 08 08:33 BST (UK) »

Hi Peter

Well this is very confusing isn't it? To begin with, why do you think Mary Takle and Mary Ward are the same person? Had she already had a short marriage before she married Robert Butson or are there actually two different Mary's and research has got a bit tangled up?  Undecided

It seems a bit odd that all activity points to Devon apart from a baptism in 1829 which with only the word "Essex" to go by could be literally in any Essex parish. Also are you looking for a baptism for a Mary Takle or Mary Ward? Why would somebody take a newly born baby all the way from Devon to Essex to have her christened?

You may have more luck if you post all that you know on the Devon boards. Every scrap of information you have helps.

Also, as more and more indexing appears on-line, you may eventually spot the entry you've been looking for.

At the moment, I can't think of any other ideas to help you, so unless anybody else has any thoughts, I'd try the Devon experts!!  Wink



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Re: Mary Takle
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 May 08 11:28 BST (UK) »

Hi Diblet,

when checking the records held by BD&M Victoria Australia, the coincidences re the children born in Yackandandah Victoria to Robert Butson listed Mary Takle in some instances  and Mary Ward as being the parent  however the only death of a spouse was Mary Takle couldnot find Mary Ward anywhere.   Will do as you suggest and try the Devon link and see what that brings.   I received a message today that a Takle aged 72 may be related and he has info back to 1842 but not past his generation,   I can only wait and hope that he contacts me as the info came via a third part.   Thanks for all your kind help

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Peter
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Re: Mary Takle
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 May 08 11:12 BST (UK) »

Was Richard a soldier as on the 1841 census in Wellington Barracks in Westminster St. Margaret, Middlesex

Richard Teakle = 20 = soldier - not born in Mddx.

HO107/738/19
Folio 41, Page 13



Maybe James Takle was an army or navy  man and the family moved around. Could explain why Mary was born in one place and baptised in another.
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Re: Mary Takle
« Reply #9 on: Monday 19 May 08 12:38 BST (UK) »

This looks interesting from the National Archives.


http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/



WO 97/340/25
JAMES TAKLE alias JAMES TAKEL
Born KINGSBROMPTON, Somerset
Served in 12th Foot Regiment
Discharged aged 33
Covering dates 1839-1852
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Re: Mary Takle
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 29 May 08 05:30 BST (UK) »

Hi Sue,

sorry for the delay I had to go back to Jerilderie and then Melbourne for a week and did not have an internet connection. James and Richard are very interesting, I had heard that at least one had been in the army and it now seems confirmed.   I appear to be the only one here that is searching past Australia from my direct family so it is difficult to collect info here, the people who have been kind enough to pass on info from the UK have been most helpfull and provided other links for me to search, I can't thank all of you enough.   Will be back on line tonight so bye for now.

regards
Peter
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