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Topic: COMPLETED Campton/Potton Parish registers - DUMVILLE (Read 458 times)
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bedfordshire boy
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I'm struggling to place one of my 4xg grandmothers, Elizabeth DUNVIL, who married Thomas Young in Arlesey in 1788, otp. She wasn't baptised there, and in 1841 age 72 she was not born in Beds. A good start! They had a son Edmund Young, which might be significant (more later).
There was also an Ann DUMVILE buried in Arlesey in 1789, but no additional information, although other burials at this time in Arlesey gave son/dau of ... where appropriate, so I'm assuming that Ann was either an adult or getting on that way, and probably connected to Elizabeth.
The IGI shows baptisms at Campton of James DUMVILLE on 31 Dec 1766 and John on 11 July 1768, sons of Thomas Churchman DUMVILLE and Elizabeth (Sturgess). But the NBI has the following Dumvil(l)e burials in Campton:
18 Jun 1769 John, infant, presumably the one baptised in 1768
26 Oct 1775 Mary (Thomas & Elizabeth baptised a dau Mary in Olney in 1774)
9 May 1783 Rebecca
27 May 1784 Samuel
21 Sep 1789 James possibly the 1766 baptism
Thomas Churchman Dumville was from Olney Bucks and his father was, you've guessed it, ....Edmund.
There's also a baptism on 9 Sep 1789 of Joseph DUMVILE, son of James and Elizabeth. Might James the father have been the burial a couple of weeks later? There's a marriage of James Dumville in Campton on 29 Apr 1788 also to Elizabeth Sturges, which confused me to start with, father and possible son both marrying Elizabeth Sturges(s)'s!
If someone is going anywhere near a library I'd be very grateful for a look up of the above baptisms and burials in the transcript to see if there is anything extra which might help me to figure this lot out.
There's also a marriage in Potton on 5 June 1797 of James DUMVILLE and Mary TICKESS. Does the entry say where James was from? Dumvilles weren't exactly thick on the ground in Beds! (20 May - I've found banns were called at Ashwell Herts, so this Potton look up can be ignored)
Many thanks in advance
David
Just found that in 1791 Thomas Churchman Dumvile's house in Shefford was registered as a meeting house. Why is it that my life is blessed by non-conformists?
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Thanks John. Still in Carca -plane leaves at 10.50am. Did an online checkin, so don't need to get there until 10ish.
Yes I saw that web page, but am not convinced he was a hatter - an A2A document lists him as a lace merchant. I read an article a while ago about lace merchants of Olney. Must try to find it and see if the Dumvilles are mentioned. Might have been in a Beds HRS book.
Excuses are bad! Just tell her!!! No rush though
All the best
David
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Thanks John, the Olney John, watchmaker moved to St ives, so I assume that the other two were probably his sons. I'll be checking these out in due course once I've established my link to the Olney family
Cheers from Derby
David
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Thanks John. These are also on A2A - I've been trying to work out who John from Ampthill is. For an unusual name this lot are proving difficult. To add to my woes the original Edmund is said to have been born in Ireland!
All the best from a hot and sunny....Derby, home of the record breaking Derby County FC
David
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Hi John
Back home now. Who would believe that Derby has better weather than the south of France!
Just found that Thomas and Elizabeth Dunvile of Shefford were baptised into Southill Baptist Church in 1778, per the transcript of the church book. I shall probably never be able to prove conclusively that Elizabeth was his daughter, unless he left a will. Must contact Trevor at BLARS.
Found the article on lacemaking by the way - Middlemen in the Bedfordshire Lace Industry - Beds HRS vol 57. No mention of the Dunvile's though
David
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Hello David, Went to library this morning - at last...
1st the marriage at Potton, I know you've found the banns read at Ashwell; but for completeness the PR entry states :-
5 June 1797 Jas Dumvill, Ashwell Herts, widower to Mary Fickess, spinster
This is the only Dunville,Dumvill entry in the Potton PR.
Next to Arlesey,
marriage 27 May 1788 Thos Young, widower to Eliz Dunvill/Dunvile, sp. , both of Arlesey
burial 30 Apr 1789 Ann Dumvile - no added extras
Again these are the only two Dum/Dun-ville entries in the Arlesey PR
Campton baptisms
31 Dec 1766 James son of Thomas Churchman & Eliz Dumville of Shefford; hatter
11 Jun 1768 John son of Thomas Churchman & Eliz Dumvile
9 Sep 1789 Joseph son of James & Eliz Dumville, Shoemaker
Campton marriages
29 Apr 1788 James Dumville of Shefford to Eliz Sturges of Lavendon, Bucks by licence **
& Lavendon is not far from Olney !!
3 July 1792 Wm Preston, St James, Middx to Ann Dunville of Shefford
15 Mar 1809 Richard Long, bach to Sarah Dumvill, spin, both of Shefford
** from marriage licence index
D176 James Dunville, cordwainer of Shefford in Campton, age 21 & over, dated 28 Apr 1788
to marry S411 Eliz Sturgess, Lavendon, Bucks, age 21 & over
giving surety is S277 Wm Smith, Innholder of Bedford
next entry D177 is James Dumville, shoemaker of Shefford
who gave surety on marriage of C247 Sarah Conquest of Shefford
to L94 Thomas Lewington, gent of Shefford
This was dated 13 June 1789, although marriage at Campton was on 2 Dec 1790
Campton burials
18 Jul 1769 John Dumvile, an infant
26 Oct 1775 Mary daughter of Thomas & Mary Dumvile
9 May 1783 Rebecca daughter of Thomas & Eliz Dumville of Shefford, Laceman
27 May 1786 Samuel son of Thomas & Eliz Dumville of Shefford, Laceman
21 Sep 1789 Joseph son of James & Eliz Dumville of Shefford
So that's all I found in Campton. Hope you can figure it all out.
So is Thomas the Hatter the same man as Thomas the Laceman ?
I better be off, someone is expecting me at Dunstable at 15:30
Regards John
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Hi John
Thanks very much for checking those out, and for all the extra bits. Funnily enough I found the marriage licences on Ancestry only yesterday, and had to refer back to your post on another thread as to how to decipher them.
The marriage of James in 1788 to Elizabeth Sturges(s) is strange as his mother was also Elizabeth Sturgess who married Thomas Dumville in Olney. They must be connected - one day when I've no other loose ends to tie up I may try to work it out.
Interesting that the transcript has the Potton marriage as Fickess, not Tickess as on the IGI, which ties up with the banns in Ashwell which is transcribed as Fickless. I'm theorising that this couple emigrated to Prince Edward Island where there is reference to a birth of James in 1815 where the mother is shown as Mary FIGUS. I reckon that Fickess in a yokel Beds accent could easily sound like Figus to a Prince Edward Islander!
Yes, I'm confident that the hatter is the same one as the laceman. His father was a hatter in Olney too, and two of his brothers in Olney were lace dealers.
This lot make a nice change from ag labs!
Thanks again John, hope you make it for the 3.30 kick off.
David
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Hello & you thought this was complete
- from the Beds FHS paper - Bedfordshire Strays (sorry if you've got this already)
Thomas Dunville - In memory of Thomas Churchman Dunville, lace manufacturer, late of Shefford in Bedfordshire, who departed this life 3 Sept 1813 aged 66. "If guilty, weak and helpless worm, on thy kind arms I fall. Be thou my strength & righteousness. My - s and my all". MI at St Andrews United Reform Church, Skipton, Yorks.
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No wonder I couldn't find his burial in Beds. I was even wondering if he might have gone off to Prince Edward Island with his son! That's made my day, many thanks John. Begs the question as to what he was doing in Yorks, and where his wife Elizabeth was buried.
Thanks too for the photos and newspaper - they arrived a couple of days ago.
Saillan boys say "coypu"!
All the best
David
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