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Topic: Tully or Donahue families (Read 903 times)
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lil0kie
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My great great grandmother was Bridget Tully from what I can figure out. Accord to her tombstone in NE Kansas in the United States. She was born in Kilskeer, Co Meath, Ireland in 1842. By 1863, she has married Jacob Rinearson in Louisa Co Iowa. Apparently she went by Donahue (various spellings)--probably due to mother remarrying or was adopted. Do not know the details of her coming to the USA. I do know that Kilskeer was a small village even then. She and Jacob are buried in Oakland Cemetery near Padonia, in Brown County Kansas. Any suggestions of where to look for records would be greatly appreciated. I'm from Oklahoma City Oklahoma in the USA.
Some day I would love to make a trip to Ireland to see this area.
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aghadowey
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Welcome to Rootschat.
Civil registration of births in Ireland began 1864 so there will be no birth certificate for Bridget Tully.
Does her Iowa marriage certificate list names of parents, birthdate, or birthplace? (not sure what's on Iowa marriage certificates at that date)
Do you have her date of death? What about her death certificate- any details there? Cemetery records? Local newspaper obituary?
Some U.S. census records give year of arrival in U.S.- have you checked all the census returns she would appear in?
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lil0kie
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Marriage record info was sent to me by another researcher on this same line. I will see if I can obtain a paper copy of this record. I do know some of the Iowa marriage records don't show parents name if they were of legal age. I do have the census records. Name varies a lot. One census index listed her as Fully but when I looked it up it said Tully. Rinearson was horribly misspelled and it took a page by page search to find her. She was listed first then her husband. If I remember right it was listed in the index under Peyarson or something like that. The actual listing was plainly a R. The joys of census takers. The 1900 Census she is listed as Bertha instead of Bridget. No explaination on that one. All other records show Bridget.
I found her on the 1860, 1870 and 1900. Not found them on the 1880 in Iowa or Kansas. She died in 1901 and her husband in 1888. The 1890 census was destroyed for the most part. Our guess is that she came to the USA as a child with parents or relatives.
One researcher says there are adoption related papers in Iowa. I've never seen these. She mentions a Dennis Donahue. Bridget did name one of her sons Dennis. I'm hoping to find these documents to find out more. For many years, I couldn't find the Kilskeer on maps. A local map store owner had been thru that village and found me a map that had it on it. He had gone on a tour of Ireland and they had gone thru County Meath. He told me of some of the interesting places in that area.
Thanks for your response.
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aghadowey
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1900 census shows Bridget (as Bertha) to US in 1870 which can't be correct if she was married in 1863 in Iowa. Also says she was the mother of 5 children of whom 4 were living.
Found them in 1880 census for you- Rose Creek, Republic, Kansas:
Jacob Rinaeson 46 laborer born Iowa parents b.England
Bridget T. Rinaeson 41 Ireland keeping tent (think this is instead of 'keeping house' in census which implies the family were living in a tent)
Isaac J. Rinaeson 16 Iowa
Annie E. Rinaeson 14 Iowa
Dennis C. Rinaeson 10 Iowa
Jacob O. Rinaeson 6 Iowa
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bodger
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Kilskere is a small village next to Crossakiel, if you look at a map of Co. Meath, the county town is Navan, follow the road from there to Cavan, you will come to a town called Kells (Ceannus Mor), to the South West of there, about 5 or6 miles you will see your ancestral location.
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Attenborough, Bacon,Melbourne, Thorpe, Ride,Simpson/ Derbyshire, Judson,Bacon,/Keighley,
Lockett/ Manchester, Harling/ Lancaster & Manchester
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lil0kie
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Thank you both for your responses. I will look further into the Republic Co KS 1880 Census.
We all know that census information is to be taken with a grain of salt and that some of information is not right. Jacob's parents are of Dutch lineage. His ancestors were part of the group that came to New Amsterdam (now NYC) then went into NJ,PA,KY,OH,IA then apparently to KS. Republic County is about 4 counties west of where they ended up in Brown Co KS. I had looked in IA and several surrounding states but had not found that census record. I really appreciate that. I plan to go to the Oklahoma History Center on Thurs and make a copy of that record.
As for the 5th child, I had not heard of one. So that is new also. I emailed the court clerk in Louisa Co Iowa to find out how to find the adoption and probate record there. No response yet. I think when I looked before, Bridget may have fallen in the group that didn't have to file papers to become a citzen.
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MikeW
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Kilskyre (usual spelling) is a village about five miles from Kells. I think the parish of Kilskyre is now joined with Ballinlough (just a few miles away)...... and there are some RC records from about 1784. Should be possible to find SOMEthing useful !
MikeW.
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