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Eilleen
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Hi 
I have Emily Parfitt 1860 ,middlesex
Clara Parfitt 1862, Clerkenwell, Middlesex.
Albert Parfitt. 1870 middlesex.
their parents were Henry Parfitt fron Somerset, and Emma ?? from maybe Holborn, London.
my question is , how can I find Emma's maiden name, without sending for a wedding cert 
thankyou from Eilleen.
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EXTON, from Rutland, Stamford,Boston, Lincoln.
LANES, from Coleby, to Bracebridge Lincoln.
WAKEFIELD, PROUDMAN and HATTON , BECKETT from Cheshire and Stafford.
PINDAR, MOORE, ROSE,CHAMBERS mostly from Lincolnshire.
LAING from Elgin ,Scotland.1800s onwards.<br /LOWEN, from Ireland to London.1850s onwards. HADDELSEY from Caistor, Lincolnshire. PARFITT, LE GROS MARTIN,
BISHOP, from Ireland to London 1880's
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PaulineJ
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have you located the marriage in the indexes?
who else appears on that page?
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PaulineJ
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Emily was b sept qtr 1859 Clerkenwell as Emily Alice...
1861 ref: RG9/196; F/90; P/36
The marriage mAR 1852 clerkenwell is a good a candidate as any.
A reasonable candidate for Emma would be (in 1851) HO107/1487; F/49; P/22
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Sparkle26
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Hi
There is this possible marriage
Sep qtr Chelsea 1862 1a 367
Groom: Henry Parfitt
Bride: Emma Dormer or Eliza Porter or Elizabeth Davies
Claire
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trouble is, thats after the first kids were born, and t'other side of London !
I think you may have to get a childs Birth Cert to get her maiden name .......
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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PaulineJ
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I'd have considered his occupation too 'respectable' to be able to dispense with the paperwork till 1862.
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sorry PJ - hadnt noticed that you had edited in that 1852 marriage !
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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PaulineJ
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sorry PJ - hadnt noticed that you had edited in that 1852 marriage !
That's OK
They seems to be a bit short on surviving kids for such a long marriage.
Then again, 1861-1871 is a bit sparse too...
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that was a good find in 1861 - well mistransed !
I couldnt see him in 1851 tho ... wondered if he was already in the Customs profession .....
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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Eilleen
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Cricky, you lot are good
I went off to look at BDM, and suddenly you are fighting in my corner for me
thankyou, thankyou.
just going to read what you have found 
Eilleen.
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EXTON, from Rutland, Stamford,Boston, Lincoln.
LANES, from Coleby, to Bracebridge Lincoln.
WAKEFIELD, PROUDMAN and HATTON , BECKETT from Cheshire and Stafford.
PINDAR, MOORE, ROSE,CHAMBERS mostly from Lincolnshire.
LAING from Elgin ,Scotland.1800s onwards.<br /LOWEN, from Ireland to London.1850s onwards. HADDELSEY from Caistor, Lincolnshire. PARFITT, LE GROS MARTIN,
BISHOP, from Ireland to London 1880's
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Eilleen
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Just running this by you ,
in 1881 Henry Parfitt and wife Emma ,
had staying with them a unmarried sister Elizabeth Scott ,,
would this maybe mean Emma 's maiden name was Scott
what do you think
Eilleen
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EXTON, from Rutland, Stamford,Boston, Lincoln.
LANES, from Coleby, to Bracebridge Lincoln.
WAKEFIELD, PROUDMAN and HATTON , BECKETT from Cheshire and Stafford.
PINDAR, MOORE, ROSE,CHAMBERS mostly from Lincolnshire.
LAING from Elgin ,Scotland.1800s onwards.<br /LOWEN, from Ireland to London.1850s onwards. HADDELSEY from Caistor, Lincolnshire. PARFITT, LE GROS MARTIN,
BISHOP, from Ireland to London 1880's
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Newf
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Convoluted or what 
The relationship is supposed to be to the Head of Household; but Catherine Gilbody must be the sister of Emma - albeit much older ....
In 1871, Cath is with husband John AND a nephew Walter SCOTT.
RG10; Piece: 391; Folio: 47; Page: 17
so perhaps Elizabeth Scott in 1881 is related to the Gilbody's rather than the Parfitts - if you follow me ?
It might even be a sis-in-law/stepsister relationship - dunno 
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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PaulineJ
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In 1861 Elizabeth Scott is a cook at the gilbody's RG9/107; F51; P9
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Eilleen
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I can know see that the lady on the 1881 census Widow Catherine Gilbody was married in Dec 1857, to John Gilbody , her maiden name was Scott,
the other lady Elizabeth Scott was unmarried aged 60,
so I really think that Emma was a Scott
does that make sense, or am I rambling with excitment
Eilleen.
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EXTON, from Rutland, Stamford,Boston, Lincoln.
LANES, from Coleby, to Bracebridge Lincoln.
WAKEFIELD, PROUDMAN and HATTON , BECKETT from Cheshire and Stafford.
PINDAR, MOORE, ROSE,CHAMBERS mostly from Lincolnshire.
LAING from Elgin ,Scotland.1800s onwards.<br /LOWEN, from Ireland to London.1850s onwards. HADDELSEY from Caistor, Lincolnshire. PARFITT, LE GROS MARTIN,
BISHOP, from Ireland to London 1880's
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Newf
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and 10 years younger ! She's a visitor and her occupation is a Cook.
I was looking for Walter ... with nowt obvious showing
If Cath married in 1857, she was quite old, I wonder if she was a spinster or not .... she might even be Elizabeths mother ! - there now seems to be 20 years diffn in their age, and Elizabeth is seemingly the same age as Emma ...
So Eileen .... still a dilemma - are these 2 Scott ladies truely the sisters of Emma - if so, it blows the 1852 marriage away ... 
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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