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Re: Pronunciation of names
« Reply #75 on: Friday 16 May 08 12:02 BST (UK) »


Marlborough is a place which seems to have multiple personalities, though with smoking being less socially acceptable "The Marlborough Man" in America probably enjoys less notice than he did in his heyday.

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Wiltshire: Webb, Hayter, Mussell, Curtice, Sheppard
Hampshire: Harper, Rawlings
Ireland: Revels, Qua, Alexander, Clegg
Bucks, Northants, Derby, Leicester and Cheshire: Spokes, Glover, Sturgess, Attewell, Whiting, Lester, Hall
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Re: Pronunciation of names
« Reply #76 on: Friday 16 May 08 14:04 BST (UK) »

So how does a naive foreigner know how to pronounce these names?  Are there any general rules?  Does one just mumble,  drop a few consonants and convert the vowel sounds to a sort of neutral "uh?"
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Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
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Re: Pronunciation of names
« Reply #77 on: Friday 16 May 08 14:54 BST (UK) »

As an evacuee in North Devon in 1942, all road signs had been removed, a jeep with four American soldiers pulled up beside me whilst out walking, produced a map and asked if they were on the right road to 'Ill-fracom-bee', I pointed them in the right direction and said "It's called Ilfracombe", the passenger behind the driver said "Thanks kid" and handed me several packets of Sunshine biscuits and some chewing gum.
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Re: Pronunciation of names
« Reply #78 on: Friday 16 May 08 15:12 BST (UK) »

So how does a naive foreigner know how to pronounce these names?  Are there any general rules?  Does one just mumble,  drop a few consonants and convert the vowel sounds to a sort of neutral "uh?"

Nope, there's no shortcut. You have to learn them one at a time. Remember, locals often use them as shibboleths:)
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Re: Pronunciation of names
« Reply #79 on: Saturday 17 May 08 18:05 BST (UK) »

Shipbourne in Kent is pronounced 'Shibban' probably for good reason if you say it quick.  Roll Eyes
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Re: Pronunciation of names
« Reply #80 on: Sunday 18 May 08 06:07 BST (UK) »

I guess it's all in the way each person speaks and hears, billkent.
One of our family names is Wathern. I pronounce it "Woth'n", but have found it spelled;
Wartheren, I supose spelled by a slow speaker.
Also spelled Wathen, Wothin, Warthen and even Woffin.
It seems to me that people who live most of their lives in a big city tend to speak fast with short and clipped words, while people who live in country areas speak more slowly with drawn out vowels. At least in Oz.
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Re: Pronunciation of names
« Reply #81 on: Sunday 18 May 08 06:41 BST (UK) »

As lyricist Ira Gershwin wrote:

“You say ee-ther and I say eye-ther,
You say nee-ther and I say nye-ther;
Ee-ther, eye-ther, nee-ther, nye-ther,
Let's call the whole thing off!”

Etc etc.

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Re: Pronunciation of names
« Reply #82 on: Sunday 18 May 08 08:37 BST (UK) »

pot-ah-to   and  pot-ay-to ...

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Cornwall/Devon/CANADA: Pomeroy
Somerset: Clark(e)
Durham: Law
London: Poplett
Lancashire/Cheshire/CANADA: Stubbs, Walmesley


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Re: Pronunciation of names
« Reply #83 on: Sunday 18 May 08 09:05 BST (UK) »

tom-ah-to and tom-ay-to, vay-ze and vah-se
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Re: Pronunciation of names
« Reply #84 on: Sunday 18 May 08 11:59 BST (UK) »

or spud.  Grin
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Re: Pronunciation of names
« Reply #85 on: Sunday 18 May 08 12:35 BST (UK) »

Or words like psalm, psychiatry, psychology, where the 'P' is silent...............as in sea bathing. Wink
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Re: Pronunciation of names
« Reply #86 on: Sunday 18 May 08 14:34 BST (UK) »

BILL !!     Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Cornwall/Devon/CANADA: Pomeroy
Somerset: Clark(e)
Durham: Law
London: Poplett
Lancashire/Cheshire/CANADA: Stubbs, Walmesley


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Re: Pronunciation of names
« Reply #87 on: Sunday 18 May 08 18:09 BST (UK) »

Kent is brilliant for catching out the BBC (despite their book of 'Correct Pronunication for English Towns and Villages').

Apart from the aforemention Shipbourne - we have Teston (Tee'son), Trottiscliffe (Trosley), Hastingleigh ('ass-en-lie), Mereworth (Merryworth), Wrotham (Root-ham), Ightham (Item), Meopham (Mep-ham), Eynsford (Ainsford), Lympne (Limb), Lyminge (Limb-inge), Boughton Aluph (Bortun Allup), Boughton Malherbe (Bortun Mallerby), and that's only for starters!!
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Re: Pronunciation of names
« Reply #88 on: Sunday 18 May 08 18:36 BST (UK) »

Aha!! there speaks a true 'Kentish woman', or 'woman of Kent' depending on which side of the Medway you live.
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Re: Pronunciation of names
« Reply #89 on: Monday 19 May 08 00:04 BST (UK) »

I was really looking forward to eventually coming to UK - now that I'm aware of some of the 'traps' I'll be frightened to open my mouth Grin perhaps I'll just write the name down and say 'where?' Is 'where' said the same?

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