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Census look-up pls: 1861 & 71 - McWILLIAM
« on: Thursday 08 May 08 05:43 UTC (UK) »

Hi there

Would some be kind enough to do a census look-up for me please in 1861 and 71.  I'm looking for an Andrew McWilliam b c1787 Wigtownshire. 

In the 1841 census, address Blair Street,  Portpatrick, he's listed as a 'blind seaman' born Wigtownshire. 
In the 1851 census, address 896 Blair St, Portpatrick, he's listed as a 'pauper, ag lab, blind, born Portpatrick'.  His wife's name was Agnes, born in Ireland, she died in 1874. 

I'm trying to narrow down when he died as I can't find a death record for him.
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Re: Census look-up pls: 1861 & 71 - McWILLIAM
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 May 08 20:29 UTC (UK) »

 hi julie

1861 census

civil parish of portpatrick
blair st

agnes, age 75, b ireland, head, sewer
william mcwilliam, grandson, age 17, b dundonald ayrshire, rail labourer

they are the only 2 mentioned.

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Re: Census look-up pls: 1861 & 71 - McWILLIAM
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 May 08 20:44 UTC (UK) »

hi again
had a look for Andrews death between 1851/61 census, no results, i'm new at this but could be possible that Andrew died before 1855, maybe somebody could look at parish records for a death entry.
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Re: Census look-up pls: 1861 & 71 - McWILLIAM
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 May 08 00:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi lindy-lou, thank you  so much for this.   

This has to be them as the 1851 census also has the grandson William living with them. 

Correct me if I'm wong but if Andrew was dead by 1861 then wouldn't Agnes be listed as a widow in the census?  Could I trouble you again please to see if  Andrew is maybe listed at a different address on the census night.   

Thanks again, I really appreciate it.

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Re: Census look-up pls: 1861 & 71 - McWILLIAM
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 May 08 12:38 UTC (UK) »

hi

re Agnes 1861 census....had another look she is listed as "head"

i'm off out just now but i'll try again later to hopefully find Andrew....1861 census has a family of McWilliam with an Andrew age 77 birth year 1784 but he is listed as "son"Huh?

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Re: Census look-up pls: 1861 & 71 - McWILLIAM
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 May 08 13:37 UTC (UK) »

hi julie

have you got Andrews parents names?
looking at SP i can only find 1 birth in the time frame for Andrew.....born 26 Sep 1784, Portpatrick...parents names John McWilliam & Mary Adair....IGI have same date, but that is submitted entry.
still searching to find Andrews death, no luck so far.....could he have died outwith Scotland?

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Re: Census look-up pls: 1861 & 71 - McWILLIAM
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 May 08 15:06 UTC (UK) »

hi again
thought i had a death for Andrew in Portpatrick,1860, initial search on SP didn't show age, got the cert anyway but alas fella was only 67, fathers name i think says hugh, registered by son Andrew.....could it be a rellie of yours? if so if you want to PM with your email addy i'll gladly forward.

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Re: Census look-up pls: 1861 & 71 - McWILLIAM
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 11 May 08 07:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi linda, thanks so much for taking the trouble to do all this.

Unfortunately I don't have a definate birth year for Andrew.  I'm only going on the census records although they vary which is a bugger.  1841 has him born 1791, 1851 has him born 1787  Huh
I also don't have Andrew's parents names which doesn't help. 

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Julie
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AUSTEN - BALDRY - BARLOW - BEALE - BRIMLEY - BRUTNALL -  BUTLIN - CHILD - CHILDS - EVERITT - FEWELL -  FITZGERALD - GOOLD - GOSPER -  - HIPWELL - HUBBARD - LEWIS - MARSDEN - PERRIN - RAYNER - REYNOLDS - STERLING - STEVENS - TWIN - TURNER - WANT- WILSON - WORTON
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Re: Census look-up pls: 1861 & 71 - McWILLIAM
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 May 08 14:41 UTC (UK) »

hi
search on SP 1855-1890 deaths

1859....age not entered, Wigtown
1862....       "                 , Leswalt
 
the only other 1 is 1881 but fella age given as 83, Stoneykirk, which is probably too young for your Andrew.

1861 census....reg district Leswalt, address "allandoo"
Andrew McWilliam, 77 c1784, Leswalt son?Huh?
Barbra                   11                  "      dau
Clenentina              8                   "        "
Elizabeth               24                  "         "
Jane                      16                   "        "
Janet                     13                  "         "
Jenet                     52             Stoneykirk, wife
Peter                     52             Leswalt, head, farmer 120 acres
William                  20                 "         son
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Re: Census look-up pls: 1861 & 71 - McWILLIAM
« Reply #9 on: Monday 12 May 08 06:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi Linda
Thanks again for all this info.
One of the deaths could well be his but not enough info unfortunately.
None of the names in the census you listed are familiar so I'd say it's not my lot.
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Re: Census look-up pls: 1861 & 71 - McWILLIAM
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 12:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi linda, thanks so much for taking the trouble to do all this.

Unfortunately I don't have a definate birth year for Andrew.  I'm only going on the census records although they vary which is a bugger.  1841 has him born 1791, 1851 has him born 1787  Huh
I also don't have Andrew's parents names which doesn't help. 

Cheers
Julie

You do know that in the 1841 census the ages were rounded down to the nearest five (not all enumerators stuck to this) that could account for him being younger in 1841
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Re: Census look-up pls: 1861 & 71 - McWILLIAM
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 15 May 08 09:47 UTC (UK) »

Hi Terry
Thanks for this info.
Cheers
Julie
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