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MonicaLesl
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Hi Nicwnacw
What info are you now looking for? You seems to have done well tracing back  Are you looking to now go back beyond what you have or forward. I assume if you have access to Ancestry that you have found the family in the censuses up to 1901. IGI is also very good in Scotland for births/ marriages for the period immediately after the start of official registration in Scotland from 1855 (on IGI records tail off around 1874/5 for Scotland).
If you haven't as yet registered with Scotlands People, it would be good for you to do so in order to access original census images and BMDs (post official registration) on line. There are also original images from the Old Parish Registers (OPRs) if your family lines were from the Establish Church of Scotland (Presbyterian). Whilst it is a pay to view, it's v. reasonable specially as you have so much info on the family already.
There are two useful guides here on RootsChat:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,43916.0.html
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Marion Calderwood and Alexander Smith's marriage is showing in 1922 in Milngavie. I would start with that one and work back verifying as you go and using Ancestry/IGI to widen the family lines (siblings/places of births etc). Scottish certificates are some of the best in the world  They include a lot of info that then lets you work back.
I can't see a marriage showing for John Calderwood and Lily (Lilias Cuthbertson) post the start of official registration in 1855 so it is likely they married before this (nothing showing for them on the OPRs). The births certs for the children they had in the 1860s (John 1863, Robert 1866, Marion 1869) should include the date and place of parents' marriage. The death certs. for John and wife Lilias Cuthbertson (she looks to have died in 1869 in Ayrshire, I searched for Lil* - not sure how first name was indexed) will include full details of their parents including mothers' maiden names, fathers' occupations and whether they were alive or deceased. This should hopefully let you step back further.
Give a shout if you get stuck!
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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I think I found James b. 1856 staying at his Uncle James Calderwood and family...let me go back and find that entry.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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This is the 1861 entry I found earlier:
James Calderwood 39, Farmer Of 30 Acres, b. Fenwick
Mary Calderwood 34, b. Beith
James Howie 13, servant
James Wallace 74, father in law, b. Bethwick
James Calderwood 4, nephew, b. Kilmarnock
Address: Bembeough, Fenwick Ayrshire
Not sure about this as I haven't seen an occupation for John Snr. as yet. These are the children showing for John and Lily:
1. JAMES CALDERWOOD Birth: 19 APR 1856 Kilmarnock, Ayr
2. JOHN CALDERWOOD Birth: 23 DEC 1863 Kilmarnock, Ayr
3. ROBERT CALDERWOOD Birth: 03 JUN 1866 Kilmarnock, Ayr
4. MARION CALDERWOOD Birth: 13 JUN 1869 Kilmarnock, Ayr
You would think the family were in Kilmarnock given the birth places above.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Ignore that entry for a possible James at his uncle's, he's still there with him in 1871. I think this entry is more likely. From the 1871 census, everyone showing as born in Kilmarnock:
James Calderwood 70, General Labourer
John Calderwood 40, son, Mason's Labourer
James Calderwood 15, grandson, Labourer Spinner Apprentice
Robert Calderwood 5, grandson
Address: 61 Fore Street, Kilmarnock
Struggling to find them in 1861 
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Firstly, there is a marriage showing, likely for the right James, of a James Calderwood and Isabella McDougall in 1879 Ayrshire. There is also a death showing for an Isabella McDougall/Calderwood in 1888 also in Ayrshire.
This is their 1881 census entry:
Jas Calderwood, Labourer At Rubber Works, b. Kilmarnock
Isabella Calderwood, b. Stevenston
John Calderwood, 3, b. Kilmarnock
James Calderwood 1, b. Kilmarnock
Address: 20 Douglas St, Kilmarnock
There is also the marriage for a James Calderwood to a Maggie McGill in 1888 in Kilmarnock.
On the other censuses, this is the 1891 one - everyone showing as born in Kilmarnock apart from Maggie Snr.:
Jas Calderwood 35
Maggie Calderwood 29
John Calderwood 16
James Calderwood 13
Bella Calderwood 11
Maggie Calderwood 6
Lilly Calderwood 6 Mo, b. Glasgow
Address: 36 Adelphi St, Govan
The 1901 is confusing. Can't see where the other Maggie comes in as a daughter
James Calderwood 45
Maggie Calderwood 39
James Calderwood 21
Bella Calderwood 17
Maggie McD Calderwood 16 - daughter of Isabella
Maggie McG Calderwood 13 - where was she in 1891? This is the year that Isabella died and James remarried Maggie
Lily Calderwood 10
Marion Calderwood 6
Marion McGill 10
Address: 17 Burnside St, Dumbarton
Unusual to have the two girls with the same first name (names can be reused when the first child died but not normally used like this ) Could Maggie McG been Maggie's child before her marriage to James I wonder? Where was she though in 1891 I wonder.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Our posts crossed over, I was busy seaching and you were busy viewing. We got there! Still not sure about about the two Maggies though.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Your son is set for a big future 
The images available on line are mostly quite readable but occasionally a nightmare to read particularly when faint. It does get easier the more you see them and get familiar with the style.
You can also always contact SP via email and they will send you via email a supposedly enhanced section where you are having a problem (link for this on SP www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=1210) Also, you can post sections (not the whole image) where you are having a problem reading here on RootsChat for additional help making them out.
Paper copies tend to be much more readable but you only need these for those certificates outside the online viewing periods.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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2oldscots
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Hi there,hope I can add pieces to your jigsaw.
Have no information of the marriage of Lilias Cuthbertson to John Calderwood.
Lilias parents Hugh Cuthbertson & Jane Cuthbertson [m.s. appears to Cuthbertson]
James [son of Liluias] Born 19/4/1856 Kilmarnock.
[Scotlands People Statutory Births 597/00 0335]
I have no record of Lilias' other children.
Lilias Calderwood died 27/6/1869. She died in child birth.
[Scotlands People Statutory Deaths 597/00 0284]
Lilias' first born James married Isabella McDougall in 1876
[Scotlands People Statutory Marriage 597/00 0107]
James & Isabella had 2 sons I know of, John Born 1878c: James Born 1880c.
I have the same census as you
I have no record of Isabella's death. You have more info than I have.
James remarried Maggie McGill 23/10/1888
[Scotlands People Statutory Marriage 597/00 0157]
It states in this record James Calderwood, Hairdresser, Journeyman, Widower
Marion Calderwood [ my grandmother] the daughter of James & Maggie was born 2/9/1894
[Scotlands People Statutory Births 496/00 046]
Marion had three children
James Born 1913c Died in WW2 Singapore Date of Death 21/9/1944
Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders 2nd. Bn. [CWGC]
Married to Constance Mary Calderwood of Lee London.
John [my father] Born 1914
Marion Born 1916 known as Maisie lived in Stranraer and married a Davitt.
I have only just started searching my family tree and hope I have been of some help.
Jim Calderwood
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