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MonicaLesl
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Hi Jim
Welcome to RootsChat 
Hopefully you and nicwnacw will be able to compare notes!
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Scottish birth certificates post early 1860s show date and place of parents' marriage under parents' names.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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2oldscots
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Hi Sandra, All I know is that on my father's [John Calderwood] Marriage Certificate in the column headed Name & Maiden Name of Mother, the name Marion Calderwood is entered, NO Father & NO Maiden Name.
My parents married 29/1/1943 & in the column of Name & Maiden Name of Mother entry states Marion Calderwood Domestic Servant Deceased. This would mean Marion died before 1943. When I realized there was no entry for my grandfather, I rang my cousin in Annan, [I live in Australia] I queried the entry on the Marriage Certificate. This was the reply. " My mother [Maisie] told me Marion had three children & was never married. I don't know if the children had the same father, however the father to Marion [Maisie] was a William Sinclair. Don't know who fathered the other children. The topic was never discussed again." My cousin believed that her mother Maisie was very fond of her mother & never really got over the loss of her brother.
There is a genealogy society run by volunteers, which I have joined yesterday. As I live in a rural area I will only be making the trip weekly. If I find out any futher info I will certainly pass it on.
Kindest Regards Jim
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2oldscots
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Jim again, just noted that your Marion passed away in 1963. My Marion was dead when my father married 1943. Do we share the same Marion? If not why do we appear to have the same ancestors? 
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nicwnacw
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Hello again
I have just looked on Scotlands People and for 1893 to 1897 there were only 4 Marion Calderwoods born, one in Dunbarton (My one), one in West Calder, one in Stevenston, Ayr and one in Paisley.
It is a remote possibility that we have the same Marion and that she had three children out of wedlock and then married later, but from what you say she seemed to have brought the children up herself and not 'dumped' them when she married. This seems to have happened a lot in the past, and did in fact happen to my Maternal Gran, she was brought up by her Gran when her mother remarried.
It is a pity that there are no census records etc to help us, my Nan married in 1922 and was listed as a spinster. I think you have a different Marion Calderwood, and another distinct possibility is that her middle name was Marion and that her first name is not used by anyone in the family.
Again I had this on mothers side she insisted on an Aunt Lydia and Aunt Eve who turned out to be Florence Lydia and Laura Eveline, they had been listed by their formal names in all documents - difficult to trace, so I had to literally search every birth index listing for the appropriate age range til I found them and then verified with birth certs.
Sandra
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Fenn from Denham Bucks and Honeywell from Downton Wilts
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2oldscots
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Hi Sandra, My Marion had no middle name. Statutory Births 496/00 0460 states
Name and Surname Marion Calderwood
When & Where Born September Second [looks like] maybe 4.15 pm ?
Name, Surname & Rank or Profession of Father James Calderwood Hairdresser
Name & Maiden Name of Mother Margaret Calderwood m.s McGill
Date & Place of Marriage 1875 June 20 1/2 [Age of Bride] Kilmarnoch.
It is sad there is no connection as I am the last of the Calderwood's
Kindest regards Jim
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Jim
Have you tried searching for a death of a Marion Calderwood pre 1943? The only ones I am seeing so far all seem to have a second name which would imply a marriage. The only marriage I am seeing in Dunbartonshire is that of Sandra's Marion to Alexander Smith in Milngavie.
Were James, John and Marion all born in Dumbarton? I can see Marion's, daughter, there in 1916.
Sandra, have you got any addresses for your family around this period to let you compare addresses from the birth certs?
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Sandra
I don't think I'm going to help any!
I was having a look for Jim earlier. I think there are two Marion Calderwoods, not a common name though. Looking at deaths on SP, between 1916, when Jim's Marion gave birth to daughter Marion in Dumbarton, and 1943 when Jim's father married and mother showed as deceased. A search of deaths for Marion Calderwood, any age and any place brought up only 8 deaths in total. Only one of these deaths showed as potentially unmarried with no additional surname showing.
This Marion, so happens died in Dunbartonshire, in ROW OR RHU. She was aged 75. Her parents were William Calderwood and Jane Hunter and she was born in 1866 in Ayrshire. In 1901 she shows as living with her sister in Cardross, Dumbartonshire.
On her death entry she shows as single, a dress maker and living in 40 East Argyll Street, Helensborough. A niece reported her death.
On the basis of the SP results for deaths I cannot see another possibility for a Marion Calderwood. As with the other Marion that you have found Sandra, this Marion would have been having her children mid to late forties. Not impossible as we know today but who knows.
Jim, was Marion always known as Marion. I am just wondering whether her first name may have been entered at death in a different way.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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