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COMPLETED: St James Clerkenwell Marriage Lookup 1817 please
« on: Thursday 08 May 08 13:48 BST (UK) »

If any kind soul could look up the following marriage that I found on Pallot's Index on Ancestry, I would be most grateful.

Sarah Bacon & John Bissell, 1817, St Jas. Clerkenwell

I'm hoping they might be my great x4 grandparents, known to me only from IGI baptism records of their children.  The first child that I know of is Elizabeth Bissell, born 15 Dec 1817, bapt. 8 Feb 1818, Finsbury, Middx.  A marriage in the first half of 1817 would be highly suggestive of a link.

From the marriage certificate of their daughter Sarah Ann Bissell to William Ettridge in 1847, I know that John Bissell was a smith and was dead by 4th July 1847.  His wife, Sarah (surname unknown), is on the 1841 census in St Luke's Finsbury (HO107/666/7; enum. district 16, p. 47) which suggests a year of birth c. 1796, but not in county.

Unless the St James Clerkenwell registers are unusually packed with useful information, even if this Sarah Bacon & John Bissell are my two, I don't know that I'll be able to get any further back: there are 74 Sarah Bacons on the IGI born/baptised within five years of the 1796 suggested by the 1841 census!

Unfortunately all their (known to me) children were born before civil registration, so I can't get a birth certificate to check mother's maiden name.
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: St James Clerkenwell Marriage Lookup 1817 please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 May 08 16:49 BST (UK) »

St James Clerkenwell marriage register 1817

John Bissell of this parish (no status)
and Sarah Bacon of this parish (no status)
were married in this church by Banns
the 12th day of March in the year 1817
by me Solomon Piggott
This marriage was solumnized between us
John Bissell X his mark
Sarah Bacon (signed her name)
In the presence of
Esther Compton (signed her name)
Josh Penny (he's the parish witness, his name is all over the register)


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Re: St James Clerkenwell Marriage Lookup 1817 please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 May 08 17:34 BST (UK) »

Thanks Dawn.

Very good of you to look that up for me.  Much appreciated.

One of those where it seems quite likely, but there's no real evidence, that they're my people.
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: St James Clerkenwell Marriage Lookup 1817 please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 May 08 18:04 BST (UK) »


One of those where it seems quite likely, but there's no real evidence, that they're my people.

Unless you can work out who Esther Compton was  Wink

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Re: St James Clerkenwell Marriage Lookup 1817 please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 May 08 23:35 BST (UK) »

True!

If only I could work that out.  It's not helped by Sarah Bissell only appearing on the 1841 census (in Finsbury) and being shown as not born in county.

On the IGI, there's a Sarah Bacon, daughter of Joseph & Mary Bacon bapt. 27 Aug 1799 in Radbourne, Derbyshire and an Esther Bacon, also a daughter of a Joseph & Mary Bacon bapt. 23 Aug 1805 in Belper & Heage, Derbyshire.

Can't see a marriage of an Esther Bacon to a Compton on the IGI though, nor an Esther Bissell to a Compton.

Annoying ...

On the up-side the only other John & Sarah Bissell in the London/Middlesex area on the 1841 looks unlikely to be these two marrying in 1817.
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: St James Clerkenwell Marriage Lookup 1817 please
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 11 May 08 08:51 BST (UK) »

On the IGI, there's a Sarah Bacon, daughter of Joseph & Mary Bacon bapt. 27 Aug 1799 in Radbourne, Derbyshire and an Esther Bacon, also a daughter of a Joseph & Mary Bacon bapt. 23 Aug 1805 in Belper & Heage, Derbyshire.

Can't see a marriage of an Esther Bacon to a Compton on the IGI though, nor an Esther Bissell to a Compton.


Esther born 1805 would have only been 12 in 1817 so unlikely to have been married at that time  Smiley
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