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johnsmiff
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smith ancestors
« on: Thursday 08 May 08 23:37 UTC (UK) »

help please, i've found my grandparents marraige certificate donald michael smith & martha millar,in glengarry in 1897, i can trace my grans family but not my grandads,according to the records his residence was railway huts in glengarry, i've tried the b.m.d and census but no luck his parents were donald michael smith & jessie smith... any ideas how to move forward
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MonicaLesl
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Re: smith ancestors
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 May 08 15:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi John

A few more questions  Roll Eyes

~ Have you found Donald and Martha in the 1901 census to confirm his place of birth
~ What was his mother Jessie's maiden name from his marriage cert
~ What was his age at the time of his marriage
~ What was his father's occupation from his marriage cert (also, did both mother and father show as alive or deceased)

There is one possible birth showing in 1867 Inverness with mother down as Jessie Forbes.

Regards.

Monica  Smiley
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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rayinbeds
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Re: smith ancestors
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 18:20 UTC (UK) »

i have just started for my smith ancestors in Inverness all i know my great grandfathers name was Andrew his son was john born about 1900 died about 1938 any info will help me. with such a popular surname i have my work cut out
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MonicaLesl
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Re: smith ancestors
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 20:10 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rayinbeds

Welcome to RootsChat  Smiley

What else do you have about your grandfather John. Did he die in Scotland? Did he marry your grandmother (do you have her name) to be able to search for a marriage certificate for them?

It's normally better to work back with what you know, so that you can verify information and make sure you are following the right line (specially with Smiths!).

Have you got your mother/father's birth cert. which will include details of parents?

Looking at the 1901 census, there is only one possibility showing for a John with father Andrew and an Inverness-shire birth place:

Andrew Smith 38, Tractior Engine Driver, b. Farres, Morayshire
Jessie Smith 36, b. Boharm, Aberdeenshir
Maggy Smith 14, b. Elgin, Morayshire
William Smith 11, b. Boharm, Banffshire
Jane Smith 8, b. Boharm, Banffshire
Andrew Smith 3, b. Blairgairn, Perthshire
Jassie Ann Smith 3, b. Elgin, Morayshire
John Ellen Smith 6 months, b. Beauly, Invernessshire
Duncan Finlyson 24, Wood Worker & Sawmill, boarder
Rodrick McNeil    25, Wood Worker & Sawmill, boarder

Address: Lonben Wood, Kiltarlity Inverness

The above entry is as transcribed on the census index I am looking at, please don't think it's my bad typing  Wink

Monica  Smiley
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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hume
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Re: smith ancestors
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 20:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi John Rayinbeds and Monica,

Although you have found a John Smith with father Andrew, Monica, I think we could be looking at another possibility of him being born after 1901. John Rayinbeds will need to confirm of course, but there is this death in 1936 at Inverness.

John Edward Smith, insurance agent, married to Jessie Jane MacKenzie
d. May 2nd 1936, aged 34
parents: Andrew Green Smith, postman (retired) and Elizabeth MacKenzie (deceased)

hume24 Smiley

PS.  I was looking at the original post when I said John! Sorry. Embarrassed
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MonicaLesl
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Re: smith ancestors
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 21:15 UTC (UK) »

You are absolutely right Hume, one of the reasons for working back with what you know.

That death sound possible. Hopefully Rayinbeds has enough info to confirm it is the right one. There is a marriage showing for an Andrew Smith and Eliza MacKenzie in Forres, Moray in 1898 which may be likely.

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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