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Topic: death lookup - william aitken (Read 1446 times)
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bowes
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Hi there,
Could sks please do a lookup for a death for William Aitken who was born in Falkirk and was maried to Henrietta Petrie. They had 5 children all in Falkirk, and he was laast sighted in 1841 census. Not found in 1851 census. He was born either 1792 or 1801, year not yet confirmed.
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Jackie
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bowes
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Hi Gadget,
Sorry about that. How do I link the messages?
Also, I still don't have the death for William, that was why I posted a death lookup. Must I link everything pertaining to the Aitken's I am researching on the same message?
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Jackie
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Gadget
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Hi Jackie
The three threads are all about the same person and it's usual to have just the one thread in that case. Otherwise people might well duplicate the work on the other threads, as happened in the case of Ecneps, Monica and I going over the same info.
I've put up the two links here so that people can read where we've got to.
It looks as if he died between 1841 and 1851 and, if that's the case, your best hope is for MIs (Monumental Inscriptions) or an outside chance of a burial record in Falkirk. If he didn't have a tombstone, it can get very difficult to find.
Did you check for his death(1855+) or a will on the Scotlands People site? If not, I'll have a look now.
Gadget
To link threads, go to the thread you want to copy the address of. copy the address from your address bar and then paste it into the new message. If you have problems - just give the title and Board and we can then see the whole story 
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Gadget
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Just checked on the full image of the 1851 census that Barbara found for you of Henrietta Petrie. She is listed as a widow, so William died between 1841-1851.
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bowes
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thanks so much.
i did look on scotlands people, but there are 8 of them, and i am not sure which one could be him.
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jackie
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Gadget
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If he died before 1851, he'll not be listed on Scotland's People. The Official Registers didn't start in Scotland until 1855.
As I said, your best bet is an MI, a possible burial/lair listing or the Kirk Sessions records.
It might be worth finding out where Henrietta was buried - there might be something on a possible tombstone for her.
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Gadget
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Gadget
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For some unknown reason, the Manchester and Lancashire Family History Society Library, holds a copy of Falkirk burials.
http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/Library/cat-RZ.htm
I assume that there would be similar ones in Edinburgh and Stirlingshire*.
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bowes
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Where would i look for burial records for Henrietta? Is there a site i can look at?
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Jackie
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Gadget
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The Scotland People's site for deaths after 1854:
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
I've had a quick look and can't find a suitable one so she might have died before 1855.
I'm sorry that I can't help any more. Deaths/burials before 1855 are tricky but you seem to be lucky -
The Central Scotland Family History Society covers Stirlingshire:
http://www.csfhs.org.uk/
I see that the have a pre-1855 Burial Index for Falkirk costing £8.20:
http://www.csfhs.org.uk/publications.htm
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Gadget
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I know that one of our members, apanderson, does have quite a stock of burial records/MI for Stirling. I've PMed her, drawing her attention to this thread.
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bowes
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thank you so much.
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Jackie
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apanderson
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Hi Jackie,
Got Gadget's PM and had a look through the published pre-1855 MI Book for East Stirlingshire but alas, no William (or Henrietta) Aitkens. This doesn't mean they won't have been buried in one of the 5 Falkirk Churchyards, just that there's no stone.
You said in the first message in this thread that you had a note of 5 of their children. Do you have any of their dates of death? The reason I ask is that it's not unusual to find parents listed on children's stones, especially if the parents never had a stone, or even if they had, it seems sometimes to be a case of cramming as many names on to a more recent stone as possible! I have no idea why this was the practice but I've found dozens of these types of stone.
It might be an idea to try and expand your information on each of their children - who they married, where they moved to etc., and somewhere along the line, something just might turn up for their parents. If you've got the death certificates for them, it'll narrow down where they'd probably be buried and we could try taking it from there.
In general, the Cemeteries weren't established till aound the 1880's so if any of the children survived till then, even better, as the Cemetery Records Office will more than likely have all the info needed to find them.
Sorry I'm not much of a help at this point but it's the best way forward I can think of for the time being.
Anne
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bowes
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thanks for your advice.
Can I ask for a lookup on this post? If so, can someone please do a lookup for me in 1861, 1871 census for the following children of William and Henrietta Aitken:
Thomas Hamilton Aitken B26-7-1821 Falkirk
Margaret Douglas Aitken B20-9-1822 Falkirk (marr 1844 to John Petrie Stevenson)
Agnes Aitken B1824 Falkirk (marr John Allan 1840 Falkirk)
Helen Scrimgeour Aitken B11-6-1827 Falkirk (marr Robert Stevenson 1847)
Thomas Alexander Aitken B1830 Falkirk (Have his 1871) (marr to Jane Sutherland Murray in 1862 Tradeston)
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Jackie
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apanderson
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Sorry Jackie, I only have access to the 1881 Cencus, hopefully someone else can help out there.
I had a wee look through the British Vital Records CD's (much the same as the IGI) and found children born to:
John Allan and Agnes Aitken
John b. 01.05.1840, c. 02.08.1840
Agnes b. 12.08.1842, c. 22.08.1842
Bethea b. 03.08.1844, c. no date given
William b. 07.10.1846, c. no date given
Thomas b. 25.09.1848, c. no date given
Robert b. 08.04.1853, c. 08.05.1853
All born in Falkirk
Robert Stevenson and Helen Scrymegour Aitken
Helen Scrymegour Aitken b. 29.03.1850, c. no date given
William b. 30.03.1852, c. no date given
Henrietta b. 03.09.1853, c. no date given
All born Glasgow
I couldn't find anything for Thomas Hamilton Aitken or Margaret Douglas Aitken (Petrie).
Do you think there could have been a connection between Margaret's husband John Petrie Stevenson and Henrietta Petrie?
All William Aitkens born in Falkirk around the time 'your' William would have been born
William b. 01.04.1797, c 09.04.1797 to Robert Aitken and Elizabeth Hill
William b. 11.03.1801, c.22.03.1801 to Mark Aitken and Agnes Paterson - this couple had a stone in Falkirk Parish Churchyard
William b. 23.09.1801, c. 04.10.1801 to Adam Aitken and Catharine Gibson
(Falkirk Parish Churchyard was cleared and landscaped and there are no longer any stones)
Henrietta could have moved in with one of her children after William died so could be anywhere!
Anne
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