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James STEVENS: Devizes Baptism Look-Up Please * COMPLETED *
« on: Friday 09 May 08 10:44 BST (UK) »

Dear Wiltshire Researchers:

I am looking for the baptism of a James Stevens, born circa 1781 (from age (62) at date of death (1843) on death certificate). 

He is recorded in Sheep Street, Devizes as a blacksmith in the 1841 census of St. Mary parish. 

There is also a marriage entry (to Elizabeth Sims, from the IGI) which may be him ... which describes the groom's birth as "About 1777 of St. John Baptist Devizes".

Therefore I am not sure whether to look for his birth at St. Marys or St. Johns between 1777 and 1782.

I should be very grateful if someone could narrow down the search a bit and maybe even find his baptism record.

Thank you!

Rachel
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Stevens: Devizes, Calne, Wootton Bassett
Hunt: Milford, Lymington, St. Pancras, Calne
Moore: Ipswich, London
Whitlock: Pitton & Farley, Salisbury
Hayter: Whiteparish
O'Reilly/Reilly: Sheffield, Flint, Liverpool, County Longford
Foxton: Sheffield, Northallerton, Thirsk
Spragg: St. Teath, Delabole, Pengelly
Stabb: Berry Pomeroy
Gore: Kintbury/Newbury, Wigan
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Re: James STEVENS: Devizes Baptism Look-Up Please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 May 08 11:16 BST (UK) »

the marriage / bapt. date you found is submitted, in good faith, but cannot be deemed as being accurate i would imagine in this case that the submitter found the marriage to Elizabeth Sims and then had taken away 25 years to gain his birth year - this would enable himto be of full age when he married, however this method of working is wildly inaccurate , who is to say he did not marry at the age of 62 for example
he is also listed under stePHens - which i know is a variant but needs to be verified.
or it could have been James Stevens that was bapt. 23 Mar 1776 in Tisbury that married Elizabeth Sims in Devizes, he may have just married in her home parish as opposed to his as was often the case



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Re: James STEVENS: Devizes Baptism Look-Up Please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 May 08 11:31 BST (UK) »

in 1841 was James with anyone who could perhaps have been his wife ?
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Re: James STEVENS: Devizes Baptism Look-Up Please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 May 08 11:33 BST (UK) »

ah ha

found this in the PR's

James StePHens & Elizabeth Sims were married 14 June 1802 at Devizes (St John)
but they are both dexcribed as being sojourners, this means they had the intent of setting up home in this parish but did not come from there




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Re: James STEVENS: Devizes Baptism Look-Up Please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 May 08 11:35 BST (UK) »

also on 23 July 1808 James SteVens married Leah HIll again at Devizes (St JOhn)
the marriage was by licence


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Re: James STEVENS: Devizes Baptism Look-Up Please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 May 08 21:44 BST (UK) »

Hello Toni,

I am pleased to make your acquaintance as I have sometimes observed from the shadows the goings-on at Ye Olde Rootschat Inne whilst keeping my counsel in the company of a glass of Madam Geneva!  But to James ...

His name first appeared on my gt gt grandfather's marriage certificate "Father: James Stevens, Occ: Smith".

He took some tracking down in the 1841 as he was entered as "Jas Stevens", which I, rather dully, took a long time to cotton on to.  His wife is indeed Elizabeth (so the second marriage you found in Devizes doesn't relate to this particular James Stevens) and, although my gt gt grandfather had already left home, there were 3 other Stevenses in the household, presumably his siblings (John, a cordwainer, who later witnessed my gt gt grandfathers marriage; William, apprentice cordwainer; and Elizabeth, who also later works in the shoe trade).

Pleasantly, I can be fairly sure that this is the correct family for my gt gt grandfather as his given name was "Robert Wyatt" and a baptism record exists for him in St. Mary Devizes on 29 January 1817 as son of James (blacksmith) and Elizabeth.

The marriage record for James and Elizabeth on the IGI for 14 June 1802 certainly seems to fit - however, I did not have the additional (and crucial!) information that they were sojourners ... ahh, so I must look beyond Devizes for a baptism record.  Only leaves the rest of Wiltshire!

As a rather sad footnote, after James' death in 1843, Elizabeth falls on hard times and is shown on the 1851 as a pauper.  Her daughter is with her working as a shoe binder and they have a 5 year old lodger from Middlesex (who I suspect was a relocated pauper child for whom Elizabeth received money).  Elizabeth snr doesn't make it to the 1861 census but as there are 3 death entries in Devizes for that name between 1851 and 1861 I don't know which is her.

Many thanks for finding out for me that I have been looking in the wrong place - I must have a look at the map and see where "Tisbury" is and have a search for any other "James Stevens" baptisms on record in Wiltshire anywhere in the likely period.

Thank you again for your time and effort!

Rachel
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Hunt: Milford, Lymington, St. Pancras, Calne
Moore: Ipswich, London
Whitlock: Pitton & Farley, Salisbury
Hayter: Whiteparish
O'Reilly/Reilly: Sheffield, Flint, Liverpool, County Longford
Foxton: Sheffield, Northallerton, Thirsk
Spragg: St. Teath, Delabole, Pengelly
Stabb: Berry Pomeroy
Gore: Kintbury/Newbury, Wigan
Hawkins: Great Bedwyn, Hungerford
Wernham: Chieveley
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Re: James STEVENS: Devizes Baptism Look-Up Please * COMPLETED *
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 May 08 16:39 BST (UK) »

Hi Rachel, glad i helped, although i didnt really  Undecided

thou should join us in the inne for light refreshemnt after worke thee beere garden be moft enjoyable at hif tyme of thee year!
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There is no current treatment
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