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Re: Family of Robert & Ann COUPER
« Reply #15 on: Monday 19 May 08 19:09 BST (UK) »

1861

South Shields RG9/3738 Folio 42 Page 24

James E Richie Head M 48 North Sea Pilot Northumberland No Shields
Jane do Wife M 42 Durham So Shields

8 Winterbottom Street, Westoe

James Errington Ritchie died in 1864 and Jane remarried

Marriage Registration

1866 South Shields OND quarter 10a 757

William Jasper Capper
Jane Ritchie

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Re: Family of Robert & Ann COUPER
« Reply #16 on: Monday 19 May 08 19:15 BST (UK) »

Another daughter Shocked.......

IGI Batch C008208 contains the following two children of Robert and Ann Couper...

Mary Ann 1815 (who we have not seen before)
Elizabeth 1816 (as seen on the 1841 census)

Possible Marriage Registration

1840 South Shields AMJ quarter 24 173

Mary Ann Couper
William Coward

George E Coward, who was visiting Jane in 1851, is their son.

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ps More to follow later after the Pub Quiz (if nobody else has done it in the meantime) Roll Eyes
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Re: Family of Robert & Ann COUPER
« Reply #17 on: Monday 19 May 08 23:01 BST (UK) »

Morning DS,
Thank you for all the work you are doing on my behalf....excellent.
I had a paid researcher do the earlier work and I guess I was "a green researcher" myself at that time so just took his work as true.
It has only been lately when I've gone more deeply into trying to find John's ship and death that I started to ask questions about his report.

John's wife Ellen Humble remarried on 5th December, 1864 to Robert Clark,  Dockyard Gateman, St. Hildas South Shields. Vol. 10a Page 798.  They had a daughter named Ellen J. Clark born 1865, died 1866.  Ellen Clark died 3/3/1872 age 42 years.

Looking forward to hearing from you again - good luck with the Pubquiz.
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« Reply #18 on: Monday 19 May 08 23:42 BST (UK) »

Hi

It is 11.40pm in this part of the world and here is a bit more information about Mary Ann.....

1841

South Shields HO107/297/17 Folio 28 Page 4


William Coward 30 Surgeon
Mary do 25
William do 2mo

Market Place, Jarrow.

Father not born in County. Mother and child born in County. Ages over 15 rounded down.

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« Reply #19 on: Monday 19 May 08 23:44 BST (UK) »

1851

South Shields HO107/2400 Folio 14 Page 21

William Coward Head M 44 LAC General Practitioner Durham Hilton Ferry
Mary Ann do Wife M 36 Durham South Shields
Wm Robert do Son 10 Scholar Durham South Shields
John do Son 9 Scholar Durham South Shields
Elizabeth Anne do Daur 1 Durham South Shields
Edward Cassons (?) Nephew 16 Apprentice London
+ 2 Servants

6 Dean Street, Jarrow, South Shields

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« Reply #20 on: Monday 19 May 08 23:49 BST (UK) »

1861

South Shields RG9/3793 Folio 9 Pages 11/12

William Coward Head M 53 Graduate of Medicine* Durham Hilton Ferry
Mary Ann do Wife M 46 Durham South Shields
William R do Son U 19 Undergraduate University Durham Durham South Shields
John do Son U 18 Clerk in Merchants Office Durham South Shields
Henry do Son 15 Scholar Durham South Shields
George Edward do Son 12 Scholar Durham South Shields
Selina do Daur 2 Durham South Shields
+ 2 Servants

Dean Street, South Shields

*Kings College Aberdeen URCS London and LSA London practising as General Practitioner.

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« Reply #21 on: Monday 19 May 08 23:53 BST (UK) »

1871

South Shields RG10/5037 Folio 13 Page 20

William Coward Head M 62 MD University of Aberdeen,* Durham Hylton Bridge
Mary Ann do Wife M 55 Durham S Shields
George Edward do Son U 22 Marine Draftsman Durham S Shields
William Hebden Couper Nephew 9 Scholar Durham S Shields
+ 2 Servants

7 Dean Street, South Shields

*URCS London, LSA London, General Practitioner.

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« Reply #22 on: Monday 19 May 08 23:57 BST (UK) »

You can see Mary Ann Coward (widowed) in 1881, living with her sister Jane Capper in Hexham on http://www.familysearch.org/.

Mary Ann died in 1884 in Hexham aged 69.

Here is Jane in 1871...

Newcastle upon Tyne RG10/5085 Folio 75 Page 31

William J Capper Head M 60 Agent in Linen & Canvas London Lombard St
Jane do Wife M 53 Durham South Shields
Frank do Son U 23 1st Mate, Merchant Seaman Newcastle upon Tyne
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9 St Thomas Street, Newcastle upon Tyne

William Jasper Capper had been married previously (to another Jane) and they had 5 children of which Frank was the youngest. They appear on the 1841/51/61 censuses if you want the details at some stage.

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Re: Family of Robert & Ann COUPER
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 20 May 08 00:21 BST (UK) »

 
Jane Capper died in 1890 aged 71 and William Jasper Capper died in 1891, first quarter (see FreeBMD for details). So neither of them appear on any more censuses.

We will keep looking for Elizabeth Couper born c1816, Robert Couper born c1820, Ann Couper born c1822 and Esther Louisa Couper born c1826 and if we find anything we will let you know.

I hope that what we have managed to find so far is of use to you. It opens up several other possible lines of enquiry and should you wish to pursue any of them, at some stage, can I suggest that you begin new topics for each of them ?

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Re: Family of Robert & Ann COUPER
« Reply #24 on: Friday 30 May 08 03:25 BST (UK) »

Greetings DS,
Thank you for all your work I really appreciate your help.  Just returned from Queensland after 10 days in the sun (24-25 degrees each day).   I will work on this information over the weekend and be back in touch.
Thanks again,
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Re: Family of Robert & Ann COUPER
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 31 May 08 23:53 BST (UK) »

Good Morning DS,
Did all my family sheets yesterday and this family is sure growing.
I did find that I had eleven (11) children for Robert and Ann Couper.
George born just after they married (25/11/1810). Samuel, MaryAnn, Elizabeth, Jane, Robert, Ann, Esther Louisa, John, William and Caroline. I'll work on Familysearch today and see what else I can find on the family.

Details of John's ship and his death would be of particular interest.  Have tried many avenues to no avail.  If anyone has any ideas I would appreciate hearing from you.
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Re: Family of Robert & Ann COUPER
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 31 May 08 23:58 BST (UK) »

DS,  Grandson John Robert Couper born 1/11/1860 sailed from South Shields to Australia as crew on a ship.  I found him as a Steward/Cook working out of Newcastle (here) in 1884.  Last found him in the Census living with his step-father, Robert Clarke (Gateman Dockyard).
Do you have access to crew lists departing England to Australia early 1884?
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« Reply #27 on: Sunday 01 June 08 14:34 BST (UK) »

Do you have access to crew lists departing England to Australia early 1884?
Hi

Sorry Undecided. I only have access to some passenger lists from 1890-1960.

I had another look for the children that we had not found previously - Elizabeth c1816, Robert c1820, Ann c1822 and Esther Louisa c1826 but again with no success.

There are two people called George Couper on the 1841 and 1851 censuses who were born in 1810/11 in the South Shields area.

The one that seems the more likely is this one....

1841

South Shields HO107/298/3 Folio 6 Page 7

John Dixon 56 Joiner
Hannah do 46
Anabell do 12
George Couper 31 Shipwright
Elizabeth do 32
Robert do 9
Thomas do 5
Ann do 3
Elizabeth do 1

Commercial Road, Westoe, Durham

All born in County

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« Reply #28 on: Sunday 01 June 08 14:44 BST (UK) »

1851

South Shields HO107/2399 Folio 143 Page 68

George Couper Head M 41 Shipwright Durham Jarrow
Elizabeth do Wife M 42 Durham Jarrow
Robert do Son U 19 Shipwright’s Apprentice Durham Jarrow
Thomas do Son 15 Shipwright’s Apprentice Durham Jarrow

Mill Street, Westoe, Durham

The other George Couper was unmarried in 1841 and was seemingly in lodgings with no occupation shown for him. By 1851 he had married a Margaret Ann Stafford and was a Licensed Victualler, running the “Jolly Tar” at 12 Thrift Street, Jarrow, South Shields.

Neither of these might be “your” George (of course) but if one of them is, I would think the Shipwright is the favourite.

I cannot, readily, see any of them after 1851.

As Arnold Schwarzenegger said, “Esther Louisa, baby”

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« Reply #29 on: Sunday 01 June 08 22:14 BST (UK) »

 Thanks DS for all your help,  should I come up with some ground breaking find I'll post a new note....Gumball
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