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pjbuk007
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Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 May 08 10:42 BST (UK) »

A bit off the original point, but my great uncle, Newark Burton, was a lad from NRY who went to the USA.  He started off as a clerk, but became a lawyer and was given the title "Judge" when he died.

He was christened Newark Burton but after a few years in the USA he started using his Mother's maiden name as a middle name.  Pressumably because he was tapping into a historic American family?  He is known as N L Burton or Newark Lincoln Burton for the latter part of his life.

There is a family tradition that my father's family were related to Abraham Lincoln by marriage.  I cannot substantiate this and suspect it was just a useful myth.
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BURTON; NRY- Saltburn, Guisborough, Marske, Stokesley
Judge Newark Lincoln BURTON , USA
DALES; NRY- Brotton, LIN - Orby
DAVIES
GEORGE: GLA - Oystermouth & Penarth, CON
LINCOLN. Middlesbrough, NRY, Durham
PERRETT Gloucestershire
QUESTED London. Assisting with One-name Study.
TRASK; GLA - Cardiff, Barry etc, SOM - South Petherton
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Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 02 June 08 03:58 BST (UK) »

Just to add my bit, my family all have the middle name of WENLOCK, including myself. I've given this name to both our children as well. The furthest I've got with this name is 1750, & this fellow still carries the middle name. I'm still hopefull of finding where this name came from. Could be a maiden name? At least when  I find someone  having this middle name, I KNOW  I'm on the right track!! Grin
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HUDSON - Surrey
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Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 02 June 08 08:33 BST (UK) »

I have seen this happen as a way of indentifying the real father where there has been illegitimacy somewhere down the line.

I had on family where there was a man living with his 'housekeeper' and loads of housekeeper's children all with his surname as their middle name. After he died they actually used his surname for census entries. But for BMD registration they went back to using their mother's name with their father's name as middle name.

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Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 02 June 08 09:26 BST (UK) »

All my cousins have the same middle name, it is my great-granmothers surname, I really like the idea of this, and if I had known about it sooner I would have used the name for my children, it keeps the family name ticking over.

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Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 02 June 08 10:05 BST (UK) »

I think it's probably the mother's maiden name - this happened in my husband's family for a few generations, and eventually the two names became hyphenated, and therefore passed down the generations.
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Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 02 June 08 10:57 BST (UK) »

Goodness, this is very interesting to see everybody's experiences!!
Keep them comin!! Gives food for thought indeed! Grin
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WENLOCK - All
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GOREHAM - All
HUDSON - Surrey
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Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 02 June 08 11:06 BST (UK) »

Gt grandfather had the middle name Sparke, his mother's maiden name.  I believe the knowledge of this got lost and several children and grandchildren inherited this as a middle name.  Folklore then evolved that it would bring wealth to the child with this middle name as the Pearson's were of wealthy stock!  This part of the folklore has yet to be proven!

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Re carrying on the name Sparke.  Second cousin Arthur and his wife Lucy weren't blessed with children so they decided to carry on family tradition and name their dog Sparke.  It didn't go down too well with the Pearsons........
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Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 21:13 BST (UK) »

I am a 5th generation with Vellacott as a middle name - post original marriage.  I have to say that some of my siblings have and some have not carried the tradition on.  Me, I carried it on with my kids!!

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Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 22:23 BST (UK) »

I have one individual on my tree whose second name turned out to be the maiden name of her maternal grandmother. Very helpful.....specially since her father was a Smith and her mother an Owens  Roll Eyes I wish I had more like that......   Grin

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Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 19:31 BST (UK) »

Isaac Stockley b1799 m Jane Roe
Children:
Mary Williams Stockley b1822
Jane Williams Stockley b1823
Margaret Williams Stockley b1825
Sarah Williams Stockley b1827

Joh Stockley b1795 m Jane Richards
Children:
William Richards Stockley b1827
James Richards Stockley b1829
Caroline Richards Stockley b1831
Mary Jane Richards Stockley b1833

Am wondering where the above information came from- did you see it in the original source or a transcript, IGI, etc.? as it looks almost like mother's name has been inserted as a middle name.

Forgive me, my notifications stopped for a while.

These all came from Baptism records on the Dorset OPC (Williams' from Corfe Castle, Richards' from Kingston) . All bishops transcripts I believe so moderately reliable.

Paul
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Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
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Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 22:27 BST (UK) »

My OH's father, Arthur, had the middle name MARSDEN.

Neither he nor his wife had any idea why that was, and although he'd asked the family, he got a reply that indicated he shouldn't have asked (even about his own name Shocked)

When I did the research back through the family, I found that Arthur's own father had been born illegitimate, and that the Marsden came from the man his mother subsequently married, and who brought him up - although he married under his mother's surname and the family is still called that name.

Whilst I can see that the family may have wanted to keep the illegitimacy quiet, what surprises me is that Arthur never knew his grandparents' surname was MARSDEN and not his own surname.

Sadly found this out after Arthur had died.  Mind you, not sure he would have appreciated it................. Undecided
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Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« Reply #26 on: Friday 06 June 08 23:54 BST (UK) »

I've got two brothers with the same middle name but I've never found out how they came by it  Roll Eyes It's hiiden in the mists of old Ireland I think  Undecided

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Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« Reply #27 on: Friday 27 June 08 17:26 BST (UK) »

Hi There
Just to Say my Great Grandmothers maiden name was Edden.One of Her Sons had Edden as a first
name and two of the others had it as a second name .My dad also had Edden as a second name .

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Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 28 June 08 12:39 BST (UK) »

I have an aunt who gave her three daughters the same middle name, Lee, after my grandfather Leo. Then her youngest daughter had children. Her three daughters all have Lee as a middle name and her son's is Leo. I call it overkill, but what can you do?

Kath
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Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 28 June 08 13:48 BST (UK) »

My two daughters both have the middle name Louise.
When I had my eldest daughter I let my mum choose her middle name.
Then 12 years later when I had my second daughter I gave her the same middle name so that they would have a 'bond' (they have different surnames)
My eldest thinks its quite cool and has promised to pass it on to her daughter(s)
I think I've unintentionally started a family tradition!  Cool
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