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sandrahumphrey
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Re: Tracing a relation back to 1901?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 18 May 08 15:42 BST (UK) »

Hi
Possible sighting in 1891 via ancestry, Sarah FOJDEN, as a servant ??


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Re: Tracing a relation back to 1901?
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 18 May 08 15:42 BST (UK) »

1881
Sarah E (bn approx 1874) in portsea wth parents William and Amelia
Sarah (bn approx 1870) in Brighton with Dad Henry
Sarah (bn approx 1870) in Lyminster with dad edward

so they are each still in the area of their births (Lyminster is in E Preston reg distr)

But it leaves "your " Sarah unaccounted for. I wonder where she was in 1881? Anyone else found her?


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Re: Tracing a relation back to 1901?
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 18 May 08 15:51 BST (UK) »

In 1891
we have Sarah Maria, bn Lyminster now as a servant in Littlehampton.

We have the Sarah Fojden that sandra found, who must be one of the others - likely yours as in london.

There is also a Sarah Elizabeth indexed, in Leeds, but when you look at the image she is actually Sarah e Pickles.

So ddi Sarah Eliz and Sarah Emily marry? or is the Fojden servant one of them?

Off to marriages....


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Re: Tracing a relation back to 1901?
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 18 May 08 15:56 BST (UK) »

Right
Marriages
1891 Sarah Elizabeth in Brighton
1898 Sarah Emily in Portsea Island.

So those two can be ruled out for yuor death cert.

Leaves onyl the Sarah MAria, bn Lyminster, who is a servant in Littlehampton in 1891
and the Sarah in london, who is a servant in 1891, who looks like yours.

Anyone following all this, or am I in a world of my own?

If you are still with me, I am off to 1901 now...


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Re: Tracing a relation back to 1901?
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 18 May 08 16:01 BST (UK) »

I'm following Liz.....although you may still be in a world of your own Wink

I'm still rummaging around in 1881 for mum or dad,never mind Sarah. Roll Eyes

Carol


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Re: Tracing a relation back to 1901?
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 18 May 08 16:02 BST (UK) »

1901
The Littlehampton one is now a servant in Coulsdon, Surrey. So moving nearer the area of the death.

I cant find your one in Kilburn att eh mo, will look again.

So - I think my conclusion is that the death could be EITHER your lady, or this Sarah who was born in Lyminster (Littlehampton) Sussex, and as at 1901 was unmarried and a servant in Surrey.


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Re: Tracing a relation back to 1901?
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 18 May 08 16:07 BST (UK) »

1901 at RG13; Piece: 1224; Folio: 9; Page: 9.

Transcribed as FOYDEN.

Although she says she's born Kilburn?

Carol


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Re: Tracing a relation back to 1901?
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 18 May 08 16:14 BST (UK) »

Brilliant Carol.

So - in 1901 there are two unmarried Sarah Fogden's of the right sort of age around, both servants.
One must be the one you have the death cert for.

Now - the question is which one?

I think the only way forward is to search full death indexes to find the death of the other one! That is going to be a bit of a task, as there will probably be other Sarah Fogden's clouding the issue, as some other Sarah's are bound to have married Mr Fogden's in the meantime! And we have no idea if the other one died before or after the one yuo have (though if aged 80 cant be many yrs to look after)
Hmmmm 1901 to 1950+ quite a task, but not bad if shared out.

If we do find it, then you will have to get the other cert to see if there is anything to pin it down to either yours, or the other one, in which case the one you have is yuors.

But i must go now - hubby called me ages ago and I said "Wont be a minute!"


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Re: Tracing a relation back to 1901?
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 18 May 08 16:19 BST (UK) »

Thought I'd add this link to the previous query as it gives us a bit more info

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,292339.msg1749688.html#msg1749688


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Re: Tracing a relation back to 1901?
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 18 May 08 21:10 BST (UK) »

Tecumsah, did your Sarah have a middle name?
Have you got her birth cert?
Kooky

Sorry I have just read the other thread!


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Re: Tracing a relation back to 1901?
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 20 May 08 19:54 BST (UK) »

I'm sorry it has taken me so long to respond but I've been out of circulation for a couple of days.
Thankyou everybody - particularly Liz, Carol and Kooky - for your interest and amazing attention to detail. The way you manage to home in on a subject, isolate what matters and then pursue it is really very, very impressive.
We'd also managed to trace the two spinster Sarahs through to 1901, failed to find a marriage and finally unearthed one death certificate but that seemed to take us forever - you reached the same point in next to no time.
Fogden might not be a common name but the variety of transcriptions is mind-boggling - Fogden, Fagden, Fojden, Foyden, Foxon ... even Fodgen. It seems that even dyslexics found jobs as enumerators back in the 19th and early 20th century.
We're really surprised how hard it has been finding our Sarah - she seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth. Knowing our luck the Sarah on the 1953 death certificate is sure to turn out to be the lady from Littlehampton. We're just hoping that isn't the case ...


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