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McIntyre,Pendergrass,Polmont,Muiravonside
« on: Monday 12 May 08 11:17 BST (UK) »

I'm looking for more information on mu husbands paternal grandmothers parents.His grandmother was Catherine McIntyre,born April,1877,in Polmont.

Her parents were 

James McIntyre born about 1857 in Ireland,Ancestry shows his parents as being from Scotland

Catherine Pendergrass born about 1857 in Muiravonside
.I've found her birth on SC which shows she was born to John Pendergrass a coal miner and Catherine Carmichael in December 1857

I found the family in the 1881 Scottish census as living in Redding Row,Polmont,with the following children

Annie   age 1,born Polmont

Katie M  age 3  born Polmont (her birth shows as Catherine McMichael)

James age 5 born Polmont


I first found the family in Sugar Notch in Pennsylvania when I began my search so I know they emigrated to the US,but can't find that.

I'm trying to trace both James McIntyre,and Catherine Pendergrass back ,so any and all help would be greatly appreciated by me.
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Re: McIntyre,Pendergrass,Polmont,Muiravonside
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 May 08 11:29 BST (UK) »

Hi

Scotlands People have the marriage of James and Catherine  in Muiravonside:

24 October 1874 at Craigs after Banns according to the forms of the Church of Scotland.

James McIntyre, labourer, bachelor, aged 19, living Polmont.  Parents James McIntyre, joiner and Ann m.s. looks like McKinnon

and

Kitty Pendergrass, outdoor worker, spinster, aged 18, living Muiravonside.  Parents John Pendergrass, labourer, deceased and Catherine m.s. McMichael


As all parents  were alive after 1855, it is possible for you to find their death certs and thus, their parents' names, if they died Scotland:

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Search for them on the IGI www.familysearch.org  first as they might well be listed in the online batches.

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Added - witnesses to the marriage were John Moffat (?) and Maggie Carmichael
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Re: McIntyre,Pendergrass,Polmont,Muiravonside
« Reply #2 on: Monday 12 May 08 13:06 BST (UK) »

I think that this is likely to be the Pendergrass family in 187, entered on the form as Pender:


Rumford, Muiravonside

Catherine Pender, wid, 40, ? labr, b. Ireland
Hugh, son, 20, miner, b. Muiravonside
Catherine, dau, 13, scholar, b. Muiravonside
John, son, 12, miner,  b. Muiravonside
Samuel, son, 9, b. Muiravonside

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Re: McIntyre,Pendergrass,Polmont,Muiravonside
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 May 08 13:10 BST (UK) »

The Scotland People site, to which I gave you the link on my first post, has the death of a John Pendergrass, 1862, Muiravonside, aged 35.

You  will be able to search the index,view and download the image of his death certificate for 6 units (£1.20). This should give you his parents names.

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Re: McIntyre,Pendergrass,Polmont,Muiravonside
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 May 08 13:26 BST (UK) »

The same site has the death of Catherine Pender, m.s. McMichael, 1893, Muiravonside, aged 66.

Again, this can be downloaded from the site.

I can't locate James McIntyre on the 1871 census with any confidence.

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Re: McIntyre,Pendergrass,Polmont,Muiravonside
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 May 08 16:49 BST (UK) »

thank you very much for this much Gadget.Since I'm American,I get quite confused trying to find these searches on Scotland's People,but this much should definitely help.I'll be back if I can't get any further! Grin
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Re: McIntyre,Pendergrass,Polmont,Muiravonside
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 May 08 16:56 BST (UK) »

a tip - I found the pender/pendergrass by searching on p*nd*r*


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Re: McIntyre,Pendergrass,Polmont,Muiravonside
« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 May 08 17:01 BST (UK) »

so instead of using Soundex,use that method?I'm pretty new to this research stuff,so any hints are more than happily taken! Wink

Actually Catherine McIntyres oldest son was named William Pender Watt,and I had wondered if it might have come from a last name.My husbands middle name is Stering-Catherine also had a daughter named Katherine Sterling,and I've begun to understand the naming process somewhat although sometimes it gets dreadfully confusing!!
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Re: McIntyre,Pendergrass,Polmont,Muiravonside
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 May 08 17:04 BST (UK) »

Soundex doesn't work too well with some surnames  Undecided

This thread might help:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,43916.0.html

and for general Scottish research:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html

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Re: McIntyre,Pendergrass,Polmont,Muiravonside
« Reply #9 on: Monday 12 May 08 23:06 BST (UK) »

thank you Gadget,I'll go over and read these!
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Re: McIntyre,Pendergrass,Polmont,Muiravonside
« Reply #10 on: Monday 12 May 08 23:32 BST (UK) »

On the 1861:

Rumford, Muiravonside

John Pendergrass, 33, miner - coal, b. Ireland
Catherine, 30, b. Ireland
William, 12, miner - coal
Hugh, 10
Margaret, 8
Catherine, 6
John, 4

all children b. Muiravonside

Oh dear - it's Irish research after this  Undecided


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Re: McIntyre,Pendergrass,Polmont,Muiravonside
« Reply #11 on: Monday 12 May 08 23:50 BST (UK) »

1851

Glenbeag(?) Lodge, New Monkland,Lanarkshire

John Pendergrass, 22, brick labourer, b. Ireland
Catherine, 19, b. Ireland
William, 1, b. ? Stirlingshire

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