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Burford/Brisford/Beresford/Berrisford family arriving in SA in 1836
« on: Monday 12 May 08 12:18 BST (UK) »

Hi,
One of my relatives, Jane Beresford, arrived in South Australia as a child on the brig 'Emma' in 1836.  She travelled with her parents, and her father's initials were W.F.  In one of the passenger lists, the family's surname is listed as Burford/Brisford/Beresford, and may also have been spelt Berrisford.  I was wondering if anyone had some information about Jane Beresford and her family.  She was also known as 'Jenny' and worked as a midwife.  She married William Henry Bourne in South Australia.  Any details about her or her marriage etc. would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Burford/Brisford/Beresford/Berrisford family arriving in SA in 1836
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 May 08 12:37 BST (UK) »

Hi Anise

The only marriage I can see that matches your information at all is this one, however the dates and ages rule out this bride arriving in 1836.

Groom- BOURNE
Given names- William Henry
Bride- BERESFORD
Given names- Jane
Date- 1881-01-31
Groom Age- 26 and single
Groom's Father-James BOURNE
Bride Age- 23 and single
Bride's Father- William BERESFORD
Place-Trinity Church [Adelaide]
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Re: Burford/Brisford/Beresford/Berrisford family arriving in SA in 1836
« Reply #2 on: Monday 12 May 08 22:24 BST (UK) »

Hi,
Your Jane's birthdate would help to confirm this marriage. 
Do you have it?
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Re: Burford/Brisford/Beresford/Berrisford family arriving in SA in 1836
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 May 08 23:04 BST (UK) »

Link to shipping records...unfortunately doesn't give name or age of dau.
http://www.familyhistorysa.info/shipping/passengerlists.html
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1836Emma.htm

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Re: Burford/Brisford/Beresford/Berrisford family arriving in SA in 1836
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 May 08 23:28 BST (UK) »

Hello  there
going  on  the marriage information
there is  this birth that ties in  with  Jane's given age


Jane BERRESFORD born 30/9/1857 at Adelaide
to William Berresford and Sarah Fowler  Book 11 page 161

now William and Sarah had 10 children  from 1848 to 1866 in South Australia
but I  cannot see a marriage in South Australia for them

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Re: Burford/Brisford/Beresford/Berrisford family arriving in SA in 1836
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 04:49 BST (UK) »

Hi all,
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.  The marriage details Robyn has provided look right, although I have always been told that Jane arrived on the Emma.  Maybe I will need to rethink this!  I don't have Jane's birth date but I do know she married William Henry Bourne, the son of James Bourne, so the marriage and birth details you have all provided do seem to suggest that she didn't arrive on the Emma after all - maybe it was just her parents and a sibling?
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Re: Burford/Brisford/Beresford/Berrisford family arriving in SA in 1836
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 05:45 BST (UK) »

Hello  there
going  on  the marriage information
there is  this birth that ties in  with  Jane's given age


Jane BERRESFORD born 30/9/1857 at Adelaide
to William Berresford and Sarah Fowler  Book 11 page 161

now William and Sarah had 10 children  from 1848 to 1866 in South Australia
but I  cannot see a marriage in South Australia for them

regards Jenn
 

I am wondering if the above are Mr W F/S and Mrs B who arrived on the Emma. Are  these parents the same as named on the  birth registrations - Wm and Sarah FOWLER who were giving birth between the years  1848 and 1866 and they arrived in 1836. with one child. ... puzzling. Undecided

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Re: Burford/Brisford/Beresford/Berrisford family arriving in SA in 1836
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 07:29 BST (UK) »

Hello  there Cando

http://www.familyhistorysa.info/shipping/passengerlists.html

FOWLER Sarah (Norman) arrived 1846-07-31 on Canton from London 1846-04-27 via Plymouth [Source:4,6,20(W BERRESFORD)]

It  is all  bit  puzzling isn't it?

 Ansie family  legend/lore says  the family  arrived  on  the Emma.  I  cannot  find a  marriage  in SA for Sarah  Fowler and William Berresford or any variation  of  the spelling  but  that doesn't mean  they  were not married  there  though.

I  do wonder  if Mrs B died  and  W F remarried?  ro Sarah Fowler?

oh  bit of a  muddle

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Re: Burford/Brisford/Beresford/Berrisford family arriving in SA in 1836
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 09:04 BST (UK) »

Hi All,

IGI has a submitted entry.


BERRESFORD, William.
Christened 1817, Eng.
died 4/2/1879
Marriage, Sarah Fowler or Taylor, 28/2/1853. North Adelaide, Australia

She - b. about 1822 England. d. 19/9/1879

3 children listed.

Mary Ann Berresford, [DOB given] Jane  Berresford, born 30/9/1857, John Berresford.[DOB given]

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Re: Burford/Brisford/Beresford/Berrisford family arriving in SA in 1836
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 10:33 BST (UK) »

Hmm,
It looks like the consensus is that my Jane was born in 1857 to William Beresford/Berresford and Sarah Fowler/Taylor, and that Sarah arrived in SA independently of William and they married in Adelaide. 
This doesn't fit well with family legend...but I have more information that I started with! And more questions!
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Re: Burford/Brisford/Beresford/Berrisford family arriving in SA in 1836
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 10:37 BST (UK) »

Here is  that  marriage

Marriage William Berresford S aged 34 father unrecordered
married 28/2/1853 a
Sarah Taylor aged 31 S father unrecorded
at Christ Church North Adelaide Book 15 page 399


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Re: Burford/Brisford/Beresford/Berrisford family arriving in SA in 1836
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 11:13 BST (UK) »

Hi All,
now, there is no doubt at all that the SUBMITTER to IGI has taken his/her information from the same source as Jenn's last posting uses.

Just because  Jenn has found Taylor as the same name that the SUBMITTER has posted ,does not mean the SUBMITTER' s linking of facts is correct.  Could be different family.  Could be, as often happens, a merging and cross over of generations.  Sometimes I think IGI submitters  wish it to be correct and the innaccuracies quickly begin.

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Re: Burford/Brisford/Beresford/Berrisford family arriving in SA in 1836
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 11:55 BST (UK) »

I always treat submitted entries on IGI with caution....have found so many errors.

My two bob's worth - two different families.  I wonder if the original shipping list at the SA State Library may have any more info or perhaps a research enquiry to
http://www.saghs.org.au/ships/shipsE.htm
36/06     Emma     5 Oct 1836     Nepean Bay     London

Request form on website. 

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