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Archibald Andrew Rennie
« on: Monday 12 May 08 19:42 BST (UK) »

Archibald Andrew Rennie b1855 Scotland. 1891 census he is serving with Battalion Armourer Sergeant. Wife Mary b1857 and children are living in Farnborough, Hants. 
1901 census has them living in Kent he is now at the Royal Arsenal the children are Margret b1883 Dover, Kent, Georgina b1890 Aldershot, Hants, Maud Violet b1892 Chatham, Kent, Archibald b1894 Malta. In 1912 the son  lived 19 Sladedale Road Plumstead.
Sergeant Andrew Rennie in walking out dress 93 Sutherland Highlanders circa 1850-1852 from a contemporary painting. Artist unknown.   
http://www.frontline-figures.com/history/93high.html
Can anyone help with this family? Are the two sergeants related, does anyone know anything of the families?
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Re: Archibald Andrew Rennie
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 09:02 BST (UK) »

There is only one birth on SP for 1855

1855 RENNIE ARCHIBALD Male born  NEWINGTON AND GRANGE EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN


The family are still living there in the 1861 census

Father is William occ. Butcher
Mother is Catherine

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Re: Archibald Andrew Rennie
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 13:46 BST (UK) »

Sancti thank you. Now I'm going to try and get the birth certificate for one of the children Maude Violet. From that i hope to get Maudes mother's maiden name. Then I hope to get the marriage certificate of Archibald and wife Mary and both the fathers names. Thank you for taking an intersest in this matter
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Re: Archibald Andrew Rennie
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 14:11 BST (UK) »

If the above Archibald is the right one then it looks like he married locally

1882 RENNIE ARCHIBALD married RITCHIE MARY ANN at NEWINGTON EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN

How confident are you that he was born in 1855? There are some births for 1856 on SP
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Re: Archibald Andrew Rennie
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 14:34 BST (UK) »

Sancti, I have him on two census. 1891 he is 36 serving with his battalion. 1901 he is living with his family and is 46.
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Re: Archibald Andrew Rennie
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 14:37 BST (UK) »

The marriage may not be the right one Sancti. This Archilbald and and Mary A R Rennie look to be in West Lothian for the 1891 census.

Monica  Smiley
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Re: Archibald Andrew Rennie
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 14:50 BST (UK) »

I'm sure you have seen this old post in your searches for the family, but posting just in case.....

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/LONDON/2000-02/0949530767

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: Archibald Andrew Rennie
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 17:07 BST (UK) »

Monica, thank you. I did make contact with the writer and it is the same family. We have had some missed emails. But seem to have caught up to each other now.
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Re: Archibald Andrew Rennie
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 19:31 BST (UK) »

Always a pity when that happens  Cry

Reading through some of the other posts by that person, it would seem one of the sisters (Margaret/Maud?) went on to become a nun. What that tells us, if that was correct, is that family was likely to have been Roman Catholic (?). I say that only because if Archibald Andrew was born in 1854 rather than 1855, you will not find his birth on the Old Parish Records in Scotland as these are for the Established Church of Scotland (Presbyterian) records. As I am sure you know, official registration only began in Scotland from 1855, so Archibald may have missed the start (hopefully not!).

I think your current thinking is the way to go. Start with what you know, the births of one of the children. From that, look for the marriage (hopefully it wasn't abroad  Roll Eyes with Archibald posted abroad as he was when Archibald son was born in Malta) and from there, with confirmation of fathers' names, work back....

Let us know how you get on  Smiley

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: Archibald Andrew Rennie
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 22:57 BST (UK) »

Monica, thanks. I will keep you posted. Living in Canada takes about three weeks to receive it. Thank you and Sancti for your interest I appreciate all your help.
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Re: Archibald Andrew Rennie
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 23:48 BST (UK) »

Perhaps Archibald was born in Scotland but moved away before the 1861 census
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Re: Archibald Andrew Rennie
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 15 May 08 15:14 BST (UK) »

I was wondering, while i wait for the certificate is there any way to search forward?

Archibald, March 31st. 1918  a Dockyard Worker is married at Saint Thomas Woolwich to Mary Louise Woodhouse in the presence of Albert James Woodhouse Dockyard Foreman and R Woodhouse. They are living at 105 Sand Street Woolwich. June 1924 they have a son Norman A.

Maud Violet, I believe her married name was Tennyson. She may have had two children  Iona R. Tennyson June 1915 Woolwich and Zella I. Tennyson March 1918 Woolwich.

Margret, it is thought she became a nun. No order or other information known.
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Re: Archibald Andrew Rennie
« Reply #12 on: Friday 16 May 08 00:37 BST (UK) »

It would probably be worthwhile putting up a new post with a link to this post here on the Scottish General board (just copy and paste the URL at the top of the page) on the London Board here on Rootschat. Hopefully people with access to more specific London resources will be able to help www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,24.0.html

I noticed that on the 1901 Census in London, Archibald is down as Andrew, I wonder if this is the name he went by? There is this death showing which I wonder if it could be him:

Deaths 2nd Qrt 1925 - Rennie, Andrew age 70 at Woolwich, Refs. 1d 1015   

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: Archibald Andrew Rennie
« Reply #13 on: Friday 16 May 08 00:53 BST (UK) »

My other thought, whilst you are awaiting arrival of cert... Roll Eyes Have you ever tried to find Archibald Andrew (I would search under both/either name now) military records? I have no knowledge of military matters, but plenty of people here on RootsChat do www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,300.0.html

You may be lucky and find details of where he was posted (might give you further clues if the marriage proves illusive) also may if you are v. lucky, include place of birth in Scotland.

Not sure if you have enough info to pinpoint where to start looking for his records, but the military experts here on RootsChat might provide some useful pointers for you. Again, I would add a link to this post for background.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: Archibald Andrew Rennie
« Reply #14 on: Friday 16 May 08 05:01 BST (UK) »

Thank you Monica, I have posted those links. If you will, tell me if they are OK. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
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