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45th reg fulwood barracks
« on: Monday 12 May 08 22:25 BST (UK) »
Hi
Just got a marriage certificate for a relative Mary Jane Watson they married 14th January 1860, her husband Charles Wheeler was in the 45th reg at Fulwood Baracks Preston, what regiment was this? Mary Jane lived Berks Square Preston cudnt find the square either, any help appreciated thanks
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« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 May 08 22:55 BST (UK) »
I'm not well up on military history, but I do know that Fulwood Barracks is still standing & now houses the Queens Lancashire Regimental Museum 
http://www.army.mod.uk/qlr/history.htm

This site mentions the 40th (South Lancs regt) and 47th (North Lancs) but not the 45th! Maybe someone else can enlighten?

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 01:26 BST (UK) »
Google suggests the 45th regt was the Derbyshire Regiment (Sherwood Foresters).  What they'd be doing in Fulwood, would need a military expert to explain.
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 05:11 BST (UK) »
This might be of interest http://www.wfrmuseum.org.uk/
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 08:36 BST (UK) »
The 45th regiment was brought back from the Cape of Good Hope and posted to Preston around May/June 1859.
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 21:16 BST (UK) »
Hi thanks for the help in 1861 he was in Surrey they got  around alot
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Re: 45th reg fulwood barracks
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 11:24 BST (UK) »
The vast majority of infantry regiments did not have permanent depots until the late 1860s. Before that they just moved around the country and the Empire. So Fulwood was just another barracks, and would have housed a number of regiments over the years.

The “Derbyshire Regiment” were the 95th Foot. The 45th were the “Nottinghamshire Regiment”, but county names and other titles were largely meaningless until 1881.

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Quote from: susan9681 on Monday 12 May 08 22:25 BST (UK)
… what regiment was this?

 they were just the “45th “, “45th Foot” or the “45th Regiment”. Their cap badges would only had a 45 on it.

The 45th Foot went to Ireland in 1862; they served in India and Burma between 1864 and 1878 when they returned to England. While they were in India they campaigned in Abyssinia for which a medal was awarded. See http://www.britishempire.co.uk/forces/armycampaigns/africancampaigns/campabyssinia.htm

Here is a useful link to the NA - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/militaryhistory/army/step4.htm If he was discharged before 1873 the NA have recently microfilmed surviving discharge papers and if you cannot visit Kew you maybe able to get a copy sent to your local FH Centre.

The most useful documents are the Muster and Pay Lists which will tell you month-by-month were he was. They also start to give some FH information (wives and children) during the 1870s. But you will have to visit Kew to research these, and you will need a Reader's Ticket.

The Abyssinian medal roll is also on microfilm (in WO100)

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 14:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Ken
Thanks for that, I cant get down to Kew but I live about 9 miles from Fulwood Barracks so may go and nosey there, I know he was out the army by the 1871 cencus.
thanks again Sue
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 16:20 BST (UK) »
Great post, Ken.

Very informative.
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Re: 45th reg fulwood barracks
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 16:58 BST (UK) »
Just to add that the depot of the 45th in 1859 was on the Isle of Wight. In early May the regiment is shown in the press as being stationed in "C of GH", with a depot in IoW. By June it was stationed in Preston with its depot still in IoW.
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