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Gadget
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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 19:04 BST (UK) »

Been doing a bit of looking up on the web - facial characteristics and gender differences. We have to discount our perceptions which are based on all sorts of learned experiences, etc. Shocked

I remember long ago (some portrait class or other) about the prominence of the bit above the nose in men and absent in women. Think I said something about it in my first post. Rog refers to it as the brow ridge. It's called the supercilary arch and this person doesn't have one - so I'm still saying it's a woman.

Indi - having probs finding an outfit for Daisy. Things are a bit limited in the Highlands Undecided

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 19:52 BST (UK) »

No way - it's a guy Wink

I just can't fathom this being a woman despite the very feminine anatomy others have referred to. I'll bet the nickname really did come from him being a beautiful boy.

I had a crush on a young lad when I was in my early teens and this picture and discussion has brought back some memories of him. He was a slight, smooth-skinned boy about 15 at that time and had the most beautiful face and the longest eye-lashes I've ever seen (would make any woman envious). His real name was Steve but everyone just called him "Lashes" - poor guy. ... and he had full lips like a girl also. Wink

I lost touch with him for several decades and ran into him again about 5 years ago. He would have been about 40 and was on a sailboat in shorts and no shirt. He still looked incredibly feminine with very shapely legs (and still has the lashes) and I swear he didn't have a hair on his chest, face or legs. If the hair on his head hadn't been graying he would have still looked like a young lad and if he wore some make-up and put on woman's clothes I don't think anyone would have noticed that it is a man.

Anyways, enough said. Wink

I just think there are some men out there that happen to have extreme feminine features and think your Daisy could well be a man despite the woman's nose bridge and neck etc.

I am terribly curious however to find what he or she is so I'll cross my fingers that you can solve the mystery.

Karen


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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 21:47 BST (UK) »

I've been looking on the 1900 US census for Daisy....but no such luck...However, there are 2 families in Osborne County, Kansas named Padgett.....but neither family has a member named Daisy or anything like Daisy. Roll Eyes

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 22:02 BST (UK) »

First thought before anything else...
Oh no, not another b Paget/Pagett/Padget/Padgett/Pachit............
Last weeks Scavenger hunt oh lor...................

Second thoughts....
Hang on, wasn't 'Daisy' used at some time like 'Pansy' and 'Nancy' for effeminate (not necessarily gay) chaps.


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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 23:07 BST (UK) »

I finally figured out what the actors name was. I went to bed, lay there thinking and thinking, you know, 'whats the name of that song' kind of thing.
Anyway it came to me.
I lay there, wondering if I would remember it in the morning, or should I get up and scribble it down Roll Eyes

, so opted for saying his name over and over again until I fell asleep. Grin

Rob Lowe, Rob Lowe, Rob Lowe, Rob Lowe, Rob Lowe, Rob Lowe, Rob Lowe Wink

Check out the site.
http://www.starpulse.com/Actors/Lowe,_Rob/

Curious as to whether anyone else thinks there is a likeness.

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 23:15 BST (UK) »

Hi Margaret

There is a likeness, but this guy is better looking, really pretty in fact. Rob is more manly..... But they are similar, glad it came to you, nothing more annoying. Hope you slept well after all that Wink

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 23:18 BST (UK) »

Well yes, I can see a likeness too, Rob has more chin, but apart from that.....


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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 23:24 BST (UK) »

Dear indiapaleale,

If Daisy was a male then it was certainly a nickname. I honestly don't think any mother would have christened a son with that name. This of course brings a problem being a nickname - as a male he could have been a simple David or had any male name in the world. As a female Daisy also wouldn't likely be a Christian name at that time although not completely improbable. It certainly sounds like a nickname and regardless of gender is probably not the birthname noted on any census.

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 23:25 BST (UK) »

It's a fella!

Trust me, I move in androgynous circles.

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 23:25 BST (UK) »

Yeah, Robs chin is pretty major in comparison Grin

I have a pic of a young man, with smooth complexion, will search it up and put it up, unfortunately it is not an original.

Could not the photo have been sent by a Daisy Undecided

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 23:38 BST (UK) »

here is a pic I have in my collection - unnamed.
Unfortunately it was done by the printers for my book and I did give it an ever so slight gausian blur to remove the lines of the printer.
Not a brilliant pic but think it shows a smooth complexion and no sideburns.
photo taken circa 1884-1888

Aunt has original Roll Eyes

Margaret

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 23:46 BST (UK) »

Little Meg,

I now wish I had made my reply about thinking it looked like Rob Lowe yesterday when this thread had only 4 or 5 posts...would have saved you from some tossing & turning.

He also reminds me of a fellow I knew in high school. Good looking, but certainly nothing non-masculine about him.

Can we see the signature on the back? Here are some possibilities: He gave the pic to Daisy and she signed it to let everyone know it (and by implication, HE) was hers; he signed the photo "To" her.

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 23:55 BST (UK) »

I think it's a man

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 23:59 BST (UK) »

Thanks Nick Roll Eyes


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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 00:01 BST (UK) »

I think this is a male.

If the name "Daisy" wasn't written on the back of the photo, I think this person would be accepted as a male.

I think he's just pretty and young. He has a slightly haughty air about him, and looks 'posh' but ..... with that shabby unbuttoned suit. Interesting.

He's going to look like a very butch girl when you put him in a dress and a bonnet Grin


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