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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 00:14 BST (UK) »

There were male "Daisys" in 1870 thru 1920 US censuses, with a high of 124 hits in 1920.  One poor fellow was actually "Daisy Flowers"... hope he was big and strong.

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 04:39 BST (UK) »

One poor fellow was actually "Daisy Flowers"... hope he was big and strong.

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 08:59 BST (UK) »

I think it's a man. Look at those eye brows!
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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 09:11 BST (UK) »

I think he's just very young - and very good looking. Maybe Daisy was the girl who owned the photograph - his sweetheart perhaps?
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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 09:12 BST (UK) »

Eye brows tended not to be plucked in those days by ordinary folk, kooky  Smiley

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I've found a very interesting one on the 1920 census - not sure how to put up the reference:

a Mrs Daisy Padgett, born 1900, Kansas. Married to Leslie L Padgett. living in Oklahoma.

Only 1 male Daisy Padgett - born 1915

All the 1900 Daisy Padgetts are female and none born or living Kansas  Undecided

Has anyone checked  the dates when the photographer was working?


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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 09:22 BST (UK) »

is the waistcoat straining at the chest  Huh  Undecided

your Padgetss don't link up with Hollyannas do they

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 09:37 BST (UK) »

My very first re-action to the photo  before reading any of the messages was  ' that's a woman' Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 09:49 BST (UK) »

your Padgetss don't link up with Hollyannas do they

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 09:59 BST (UK) »

Hi Indie

I think Gadget has something there asking for details of the photographer because as well all know that just because it was found in the US doesn't mean it was taken in the US.

We have a friend named Dave whom we call Daisy.  But that is only because he once got a business letter addressed to Miss Daisy Smith.

I don't have a clue if it's a man or a woman....if you only look at the right side of the face....that is the right side as you look at it I think it looks like a man.  There is something odd that I noticed but I am not sure if it has been colorized but there is a definate difference between the colour of the face and the ears.  It appears as if the sitter is wearing quite a good deal of makeup of some sort.

Could this be an actress dressed as a man for a role she is playing?  Could the name of the character be Daisy Padgett and the receiver so familiar with the sitter that putting his/her real name wouldn't be necessary?

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #54 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 10:17 BST (UK) »

I've thought all along that the hair looked too full and a bit wiggy.  Could be a bloke dressed for a part on the stage. I'm still convinced it's a feller.
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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #55 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 10:59 BST (UK) »

I am positive that Daisy is a man, just a very good looking one!  It wouldn't even have occurred to me that he was effeminate, just a young dandy.  Poor bloke, what would  he have made of all this?

Wasn't Oscar Wilde's boyfriend called Daisy?

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #56 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 11:02 BST (UK) »

In msg 17 this tread Orig poster says:
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it has the photog's name - Rockford - in the city of Osborne, Kansas

In the 1904 Polk's Gazetteer there is a studio in Osborne called "Rochford-Kleckner"

1900 Osborne, KS census there is a "Rose F. Rockford", 31, photographer.  In 1910 Rose (40) is married to Moulton A. Kleckner (65?) and they are both photographers.  So this DOES suggest that photo was taken before about 1904.

They still have own studio in 1920.

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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #57 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 11:08 BST (UK) »

Hi again,
If you look at a photo of my son when he was 15 and now, at 17, the facial changes are amazing - but the sideburns have only been really noticeable in the last six months. At 15 he had a soft, almost pretty look, with longish curly hair auburn. Now he still has the curls, but they're shorter -  the face is longer, leaner and much more rugged. Softness has completely gone, in a relatively short time. So different!
Still think it's a lovely looking guy - it's the date of the outfit I find more puzzling! Huh
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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 11:10 BST (UK) »

Any sign of an Adam's Apple  Huh Huh
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Re: Could this be a woman?
« Reply #59 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 11:12 BST (UK) »

None, Emmeline,  or a brow ridge. That's one of the reasons that some of us still believe that it is a she  Smiley

Maybe Old Rowley could date the photo for us  Undecided


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