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Porteous - Kirkmichael / Kirkpatrick
« on: Tuesday 13 May 08 18:17 UTC (UK) »

Is there a big house or farm near Kirkpatrick Durham?  Mary Porteous (born 1834 Kirkmichael) was a servant in Kirkpatrick Durham in 1851.  By 1854 she had moved to Kent - but why?  She married a shepherd and never went back.  Possibly she was a servant in a household which spent some part of the year in Kent.  Any ideas on how I might find where she was a servant?
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Re: Porteous - Kirkmichael / Kirkpatrick
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 July 08 23:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi Country Girl,
I have Porteous's in my line farming at Parton. Think a lot of the Porteous's came from Edinburgh way.
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Re: Porteous - Kirkmichael / Kirkpatrick
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 07:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ian,
Thanks for this.  However, my Porteous family don't seem to have extended from Dumfriesshire to Edinburgh.  I have gleaned a little more since my first log, and it seems they were very firmly in the area only a few miles from Dumfries in any direction at any time.  The last known place was Auchenhay, near Corsock.
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Re: Porteous - Kirkmichael / Kirkpatrick
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 17:19 UTC (UK) »

Hi County Girl
The 1851 Census shows Mary, as you say, as a Farm Servant in the Parish of Kirkpatrick Durham which is in fact in Kircudbrightshire.

She is however with her parents Richard (42)  and Janet Porteous (40)  and her brothers and sisters of whom she is the eldest age 16 Her father is a Farm Labourer.
They are living at Auchanhay Cot. House. Above her family on the Census is a gamily at Auchan Hay but which still seems to be a family who work locally Mole catcher etc.
I suspect the 'big house' you are looking for will be on the previous page.  Auchenhay appears to be in the parish of Borgue.

A spot of googling on Borgue etc. may add to your information.   There has been for a long time a Porteous Research Project which you may want to contact.

Best wishes
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Re: Porteous - Kirkmichael / Kirkpatrick
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 July 08 03:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi Country Girl

I don't know if you have this already.  1841 census for Kirkmichael:
living at Tinwald Cottage
Richard Porteous age 30 agr labourer
Jannet age 30
David age 8
Mary age 6
Helen age 4
John age 2
James age 4 mos
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Re: Porteous - Kirkmichael / Kirkpatrick
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 July 08 11:01 UTC (UK) »

Thanks to you both for this information.  It's so exciting when someone unconnected to the family is kind enough to bother to pass on information!  Much appreciated.  I'm drawing a line on my OS map of the area following the farms where Mary's father went in search of work via the places where his ten children were born.  He starts out at Lockerbie and goes via farms just north of Dumfries and then west to Auchenhay then to Urr area.  The Auchenhay census info was interesting - I now need to look at 'the previous/next page'!  Thanks again.
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Re: Porteous - Kirkmichael / Kirkpatrick
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 05 August 08 22:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

I have just started researching my girlfriend's tree, and have come up with a Porteous family in Dumfriesshire.  Coming forward a few years in this thread, does anyone have details of Susan Hastings Porteous marrying William Macaulay in 1910?

I would be grateful for any contact.
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Re: Porteous - Kirkmichael / Kirkpatrick
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 05 August 08 22:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

I have just started researching my girlfriend's tree, and have come up with a Porteous family in Dumfriesshire.  Coming forward a few years in this thread, does anyone have details of Susan Hastings Porteous marrying William Macaulay in 1910?

I would be grateful for any contact.

Um - me  Huh

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,319601.0.html

but it was Dunbartonshire not Dumfriesshire,  if I remember correctly  Grin


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Re: Porteous - Kirkmichael / Kirkpatrick
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 05 August 08 22:34 UTC (UK) »

However - not too far off. I've found her  on the 1901 in Dunbartonshire but she is down as being born Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.

big household - will put it up shortly.

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Re: Porteous - Kirkmichael / Kirkpatrick
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 05 August 08 22:39 UTC (UK) »

1901

Hillview Terrace, 48 Dunbarton Road, Clydebank (Old Kilpatrick)

Robert Porteous, 40, sewing machine maker - iron moulder, b. Thornhill, Dumfriesshire
Johann, 35, b. Sanquhar, Dumfriesshire
Susan, 14, general servant domestic, b. Thornhill
Annie, 12,  b. Thornhill
James, 11,  b. Thornhill
Thomas, 9, b. Glasgow
Isabella, 6, b. Clydebank
Maggie, 1, b. Clydebank


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Re: Porteous - Kirkmichael / Kirkpatrick
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 05 August 08 22:41 UTC (UK) »

SP have Robert Porteous marrying Johann Crawford, Morton, Dumfriesshire in 1886

Cheesy

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Re: Porteous - Kirkmichael / Kirkpatrick
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 06 September 08 13:51 UTC (UK) »

I am looking for Archibald PORTEOUS (1819-1886) m. c1854 Nancy/Nan/Ann BLACK (c1834 - 1888). Archabald PORTEOUS was the son of Archibald PORTEOUS & Grace ROBERTSON and was born in 1819 at Kirkpatrick-Fleming, Dumfriesshire, Scotland. Nan was from IRL, exactly where & when imigrated unknown. (See update).
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Re: Porteous - Kirkmichael / Kirkpatrick
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 06 September 08 15:56 UTC (UK) »

Genmouse

The following inscription is taken from a memorial in the kirkyard of Dornoch and appears to belong.

John son of Archibald Porteous & Grizzel Robinson who died at Dornoch 10th February 1805 aged 5 months.  Also Julia their daughter who died at Headless Cross 3rd October 1814 aged 3. And Mary their daughter who died at Grahamshill 8th July 1817 aged 18.  And the above Archibald Porteous who died at Grahamshill 17th September 1824 aged 48.  Also above Grizzel Robinson who died 26th September 1852 age 76.

Note the spelling variations.   Griz(z)el is often used instead of Grace,  Inscription reads Robinson - even Robison - though I note that the !819 baptism record you mention refers to Grace Robertson.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Porteous - Kirkmichael / Kirkpatrick
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 06 September 08 18:26 UTC (UK) »

Thanks yes it puts in a few more dates, but would love to know names of Archibald Porteous b. abt. 1770  parents
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Re: Porteous - Kirkmichael / Kirkpatrick
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 04 December 08 16:00 UTC (UK) »

Hi Genmouse,

I have a fairly detailed "Descendants of Archibald PORTEOUS" report. I can email it to you if you PM me your email address.

Unfortunately it does not go back further than Archibald b.1773, but if you have any additions of amendments, I would be most interested.
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