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MEEKS Wilburton
« on: Wednesday 14 May 08 11:46 BST (UK) »

Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there were any chapels in Wilburton?
I'm looking for the baptism of my 3x gt grandmother Sarah Meeks. According to the census she was born 1809-1816. But I can't find her on the transcripts of Wilburton registers by the CFHS. There are a couple called Josiah and Jane Meeks having children at the right time but there is a gap of 13 years between Mary bap in 1811 and Elizabeth bap in 1825.
There is also a possibility that Sarah could have been illegitimate. When she married my 3x gt grandfather James Graves (her second marriage) in 1843 at Lt Thetford, no parent known was written in the registers. I have checked the Poor law index on Cfhs website but no luck.
I'm hoping someone can help me with this brickwall!

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Re: MEEKS Wilburton
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 12:19 BST (UK) »

http://www.genealogylinks.net/uk/england/cambridgeshire/parish-registers.htm

On this site there are the Baptisms of two Sarah Meeks one in 1811 the other in 1812,Parents of first one  William and Susannah in Manea?
second one William and Eleanor in Gamlingay?I don't know the geography of Cambridge so may be a million miles away Grin
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Re: MEEKS Wilburton
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 13:09 BST (UK) »

Hi,
Thanks for the information but I am aware of these Sarah Meeks. The Sarah who was baptised in Manea died in Chesterton aged 20 and I can't make sense of Sarahs born in Gamlingay.
Wiliiam and Eleanor had Sarah bap 1 Nov 1799 and 14 May 1812 but a Sarah was buried 10 May 1818
aged 19 which presumably was the Sarah bap 1799 but how could they have another Sarah bap 1812!
Any ideas Grin
Does anyone have access to the original register of Gamlingay? I only have the transcripts and wonder if it is an error in 1812 as William and Eleanor also had a son bap mar 1812.

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Re: MEEKS Wilburton
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 13:19 BST (UK) »

There is-or was-a Baptist chapel in Wilburton. My uncle got married there in 1960.

It might also be worth checking the baptisms for neighbouring villages.Most of my family are from Haddenham and were baptised there but I have found a few stray baptisms in places like Cottenham or Witcham.

I have a few sets of PRs on fiche so will check them.
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Re: MEEKS Wilburton
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 13:30 BST (UK) »

Hi,
Thats interesting to know, thanks. I have checked a few places around Wilburton as Sarah married for the first time in Witchford and was there on 1901 census age 87. I would be grateful if you could search the fiche you have. You may have more luck! Grin
I don't suppose you know the dates for the baptist chapel? Would the records be in the CRO.
I have family from Haddenham!

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Re: MEEKS Wilburton
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 13:51 BST (UK) »

Both Gamlingay Sarah baptisms are extracted onto the IGI. I can't imagine that both the LDS AND Cambs FHS have made an identical transcription error. Could her parents have forgotten that she'd already been done, and did her again in 1812?

These William and Eleanor baptisms raise a number of questions - the first baptism was in 1794, the last in 1828. Seems too long a span. Could there have been two William & Eleanors? 

In 1851 living in Gamlingay was Eleanor Meeks, 60, obviously not the mother of Sarah baptised 1799 if her age is correct, but I can't see her in 1841. And in 1841 in Gamlingay was William 77 and Ellenor 67 Meeks

In answer to your original question genuki details non-conformist churches in each Cambs parish, and Wilburton just has the Church of England

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
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Re: MEEKS Wilburton
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 13:59 BST (UK) »

See the VCH entry for Wilburton at http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=21912#s4 for more details of the baptist church. But they didn't go in for infant baptisms, although birth details can be found in Baptist Church books

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: MEEKS Wilburton
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 14:06 BST (UK) »

Hi David,
The last baptism for William and Eleanor children was 1812 not 1828. They had a son William but he married Mary Norman in 1831.
It does seem quite likely that the second baptism could be a catch up! as you say its unlikely that both LDS and CFHS made a mistake. I have always found CFHS transcripts to be reliable.
William and Eleanor had a daughter called Ellen who possibly could be the one in 1851 she was born 1797. Eleanor sen was bur as Ellen age 82 in 1854.
Thanks for the link.

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Re: MEEKS Wilburton
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 15:02 BST (UK) »

The IGI and Cambs FHS baptism index have Emma, George and William, all children of William and Eleanor, baptised in 1828. I think these may have been late baptisms as an Emma Meeks was married in Gamlingay in 1841 and appears on the census age 22. The fact that there were two Williams, 1804 and 1828 again makes me wonder if they either doubled up baptisms or it was a different William and Eleanor. I don't really favour the latter as I can only find the one marriage, in 1793.

The Eleanor in 1851 was said to be a widow age 60 born Yelling, so I don't think she's Ellen daughter of William and Eleanor. I've just noticed she was living next door to the Emma mentioned above which may be significant. Possibly her age was wrongly enumerated and should be 80.

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: MEEKS Wilburton
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 16:02 BST (UK) »

Hi David,
The children baptised in 1828 were the children of William and Eleanor of Woodbury and William was a woodsman,and also George and Elizabeth Meeks baptised two children Mercy and Frances on 3 Oct 1828.
I can only find one marriage so I think your first theory of doubled up baptisms makes sense.

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Re: MEEKS Wilburton
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 17:11 BST (UK) »

No luck with finding a Meeks baptism for that period in Haddenham, Downham, Witcham or Stretham.

If the Baptist chapel has closed the records may be at the CRO-we were down there at the weekend and drove through Wilburton but I didn't notice if the chapel was open.

I don't know if Wilburton has a website-Haddenham does and there is a message board so somebody down there might be able to help you with the whereabouts of the Baptist church registers. Although Baptists do have adult baptism they used to bring babies to church for a service of "Dedication".
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Re: MEEKS Wilburton
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 17:24 BST (UK) »

Hi annbe,
Thanks for searching for Sarahs baptism, I appreciate it.
I'll have a look for any information about Wilburton.

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Re: MEEKS Wilburton
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 18:03 BST (UK) »

Perhaps I'm being a bit slow here! Are you saying that the William and Eleanor of Woodbury (a hamlet of Gamlingay) are distinct from the earlier William and Eleanor? If so there are two families of William and Eleanor. I had wondered about the 1828 baptisms: George on 3 Oct 1828 son of Wm and Eleanor (the same day that George and Elizabeth baptised Frances and Mercy), and William and Emma two days later on 5 Oct 1828 children of Wm and Eleanor of Woodbury

The only marriage I can see was on 11 Oct 1793 at Everton-cum-Tetworth between William Meeks and Eleanor Sabey, both otp. Is this the one you have?

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: MEEKS Wilburton
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 22:16 BST (UK) »

Hi David,
No as far as I'm concerned there is only the one William and Eleanor and that is the couple who married in 1793! The entries in the register are only for 1828, it doesn't say where in Gamlingay they lived before that.

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