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trish251
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SA Death lookup please
« on: Wednesday 14 May 08 12:12 BST (UK) »

I am looking for a death - I really don't know when, but my best guess from information available is 1940. I know he was alive and in the Northern Territory in 1938. According to the NT registry he did not die there (cost $30 to find this out). I tend to think he did, but cannot check that angle further, so I am trying other states. I have checked NSW Qld Vic and WA. I don't think he would have gone to Tas.

Name James Matthews - could maybe be James Edward Mathews - Mathews spelt with 1 or 2 T
He was born 1885 under a completely different name - so I'm not sure parent names would help - but his mother was Susan, father James. His family had not seen him for 20 years by 1940. It is only recently that we found his alias name.

South Australia being close to the NT is my remaining hope

Tia

Trish

PS I don't think I have asked this question before Huh but if so I will blame senior moments and apologise in advance - he is a true mystery man
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Re: SA Death lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 23:11 BST (UK) »

Hi Trish
I think I have found him for you
James Matthews died 24.7.1940 age 54 at Adelaide Residence Darwin.
Ref Book 626 Page 3268
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SMITH.. Cellardyke, Fife, Scotland
GERRARD ..Pittenweem, St Monance, Fife
DEWAR..Kikcaldy.. Fife
GRUBB .. Crail, Fife
HAMILTON .. St Andrews and St Leonards, Fife
BALFOUR, Ferry Port on Craig, Fife
EISEN   PHILLIPS, WISEMAN ..Sth Australia
WISEMAN..Barrow, Suffolk
VANT.. Yorkshire & Kent
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Re: SA Death lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 23:13 BST (UK) »

Good morning Sidsmith

May I ask the source of your info.....NT resources appear to be very few and not much online!

Thank you

Terra

Edit  Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed  I see he died Adelaide.  No need to reply.
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Re: SA Death lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 23:48 BST (UK) »

Hello  there Trisha     brickwall  down.............yeah

I see that SAGHS has two cemetery  listings

Surname: MATTHEWS
Given name(s): James John Hurd
Source date: 1940

Surname: MATTHEWS
Given name(s): James John
Source date: 1940

but neither might be your chap  given the middle  name


information  on SA  death certificate (supplied by Shanko)

1908-1947

Date and Place of Death
Name
Sex
Age
Occupation
Usual Residence
Birthplace
Length of Residence in Commonwealth
Age at Marriage 
Number of Issue Living and Deceased
Cause of Death
Place of Death
Informant

unfortunately  no place of burial shown

regards Jenn
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Re: SA Death lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 May 08 04:10 BST (UK) »

Wow!!

I have been discussing this brick wall with Jenn - until recently I didn't think to try SA - can someone let me know what I have to do to buy the certificate

Thank you so much sidsmith - I am assuming it means he died in Adelaide, but usual residence was Darwin?  I didn't mention it in my posting but his war service record (for WWI) has a comment that made me think he may have died 24 July 1940 - rather fits with the finding!!

My first ever South Australian person & what a one to find - the family mystery! I wonder why I have been on RootsChat for 4 years without asking this question! Could have saved the $30 I paid the NT

Trish



Hi Jenn

Given his habit of name changing it is possible that one of the burials could be him, but they seem doubtful - the only middle name I ever heard about was Edward - then again we haven't heard much of him since 1920.

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Re: SA Death lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 May 08 04:41 BST (UK) »

http://www.ocba.sa.gov.au/bdm/
You  can apply  on  line  for  the certificate  not a  cheap  state  $36.75

but  I  do  know when  I  ordered  a couple  they were very  prompt.

kind regards Jenn
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I live in Thuringowa/Townsville Queensland, Australia
and I am researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,ADAMSON from NSW, BAYLEY from Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR from Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, SHOEBRIDGE, BRINDLE from Kent, EDSALL from Cornwall, BRYAN from Staffordshire,MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER from Ireland, VAN REYK, DE LA HARPE, from Sri Lanka
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Re: SA Death lookup please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 May 08 05:14 BST (UK) »

http://www.ocba.sa.gov.au/bdm/
You  can apply  on  line  for  the certificate  not a  cheap  state  $36.75

but  I  do  know when  I  ordered  a couple  they were very  prompt.

kind regards Jenn

Pricey!! Does this apply Jenn - or do I get different information - only the index??
http://www.saghs.org.au/research.htm#transcription

Trish
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Re: SA Death lookup please
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 May 08 05:17 BST (UK) »

Transcription from SAGHS is a full transcription of the death cert.  Good value at $11 and the results are emailed. 

Terra
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Re: SA Death lookup please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 May 08 05:25 BST (UK) »

Transcription from SAGHS is a full transcription of the death cert.  Good value at $11 and the results are emailed. 

Terra

Thankyou - I think this should cover it then - it says Adelaide deaths to 1967  Cool

Trish
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Re: SA Death lookup please
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 15 May 08 10:15 BST (UK) »

Hello  there Trisha

I  didn't  mean  to  confuse  you ,  the one  from  the government is  $36.75  as opposed  to  $11.00  from  SAGHS  a big  difference  for  sure.

kind regard Jenn
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Research names or areas:
I live in Thuringowa/Townsville Queensland, Australia
and I am researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,ADAMSON from NSW, BAYLEY from Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR from Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, SHOEBRIDGE, BRINDLE from Kent, EDSALL from Cornwall, BRYAN from Staffordshire,MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER from Ireland, VAN REYK, DE LA HARPE, from Sri Lanka
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Re: SA Death lookup please
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 15 May 08 13:57 BST (UK) »

Hello  there Trisha

I  didn't  mean  to  confuse  you ,  the one  from  the government is  $36.75  as opposed  to  $11.00  from  SAGHS  a big  difference  for  sure.

kind regard Jenn

Hi Jenn

No apology needed - I asked about certificates - then I did a little browsing & found this option - rather like NSW transcripts but a little cheaper - and easier to get from what I can determine - although it seems I have to order via snail mail. I still can't believe I didn't check SA years ago - a true senior moment

Trish
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