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lizdb
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IF it is the same guy who changes his name - it appears he did it between 1854 (Sarah Shaldrake's birth) and 1857 (Lizzy Harvey's birth)
Certainly form the census entries it appears that the children were k/a Harvey too - he has not given their surname as Shaldrake nor called them step children. But that is not really eveidence in itself - many step families are listed in this way.
And you say Susannah uses Sheldrake in a later census when she is grown up.
So (if it is the same guy) whatever reason promted him to change his name was not soooo important to Susannah that she remained with the new name.
If he is not the same guy, it seems highly likely he was a rellie -given the surname Harvey and place he came from. Could be a cousin on Joshua's mums side or something.
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Tati
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Could you find John/Joshua in 1891 for me please?
1891
RG12/1272 90 11
Luton, Bedfordshire
67 Burr Street
John Harvey, lodger, wid, 59, General Labourer, b. Hemingstone Suffolk
in the household of Charles Waller, 49, Bricklayer and his wife Mary age 48, both born Luton.
Death John Harvey age 65 Jan 1894 Luton 3b 230
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"My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness" Desire and hunger is the fire I breathe Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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I wonder if his death cert would mention any previous names?
I suppose it depends on a) if the person registering it knew and b) if the registrar asked them
I find it strange that Lizzy - who was born after the name changing/remarriage took place and so would never have been a Sheldrake, then chose to marry in the name Sheldrake...
would be interesting to see who she names as her father on her marriage cert.
That might be the final piece of evidence to confirm that Josh 'n' John are one and the same
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Just out of interest, Lizzy married Henry Shane. I just found them in 1881. They also live in Burr Str, Luton!
Married in 1878 at 19, by 1881 she is just 22, but has 4 children, aged 4,2,1 and 6mths.
It just struck me how lifestyles have changed. My daughter is nearly 22, but she is doing finals at Uni! - so different.
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And just to confuse us all further, the eldest of her childen, Henry, who was born in 1877 just before she married Henry Shane, was registered as Henry Sheldrake!!
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