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Would someone please date this photo?
« on: Thursday 15 May 08 11:35 BST (UK) »

This is a photo of my Gt Gt Grand Aunt & Uncle taken in South Dakota.  I don't have any idea when it might be taken, but would be before 1915.  Would someone please give me an idea how old they might be in the photo?  And a possible date please?

Unfortunately there is no original that we know of and this looks like a copy of a copy at least.

kind regards
Jill


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Re: Would someone please date this photo?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 May 08 12:24 BST (UK) »

ooohhh....Long dress...and puff shoulder sleeves.... Smiley

A Windsor knot in his tie?Huh Blimey...Avant Gard! Grin

The collar looks attached...but is flat...1890s..and they look to be in their mid 40s

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Re: Would someone please date this photo?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 May 08 12:51 BST (UK) »

I note that in the 1880 Census for the US there are two Henry and Sarah Wells couples.
If you know the names of their offspring to identify the couple, you can see their reported ages.
In Rawls, Mills, Iowa: Henry, Sarah, with Abram, Charles, Ella and Minnie at home. All born in England.
In Jolliet, Will, Illinois: Henry, Sarah, with Susanah, Arthur, Emma, Florence and Anna at home. All born in England.
If one of these couples are the right people I would suggest that the second, older pair are the ones in the picture. South Dakota became a state in late 1889.
This does not really answer your question but hope it might help somewhat.

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Re: Would someone please date this photo?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 May 08 13:01 BST (UK) »

Thanks both of you!  My Sarah and Henry are the 2nd couple from Joliet. I live in Australia and I don't have access to the US census.

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Re: Would someone please date this photo?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 May 08 13:06 BST (UK) »

The 1880 Census is universally available I think. Try

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp

This is a basic beginning for England, US and Canada in the 1880-1 time frame.

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Lancashire and Cheshire: Harding, Turner, Gandy, Rigby, Bancroft, Moorcroft, Wright
Wiltshire: Webb, Hayter, Mussell, Curtice, Sheppard
Hampshire: Harper, Rawlings
Ireland: Revels, Qua, Alexander, Clegg
Bucks, Northants, Derby, Leicester and Cheshire: Spokes, Glover, Sturgess, Attewell, Whiting, Lester, Hall
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Re: Would someone please date this photo?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 May 08 20:04 BST (UK) »

Thanks Beth,  these are the right family  Grin.  They look older than mid forties in the photo to me, but I think they did it hard and Sarah was always pregnant with one of her 16 children, so hard to tell her age!

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Re: Would someone please date this photo?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 May 08 00:31 BST (UK) »

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Re: Would someone please date this photo?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 May 08 00:34 BST (UK) »

I would say early 1900s, probably pre-1910, for a date for the photo - the clothing is a little old-fashioned, but the relaxed pose and the ages of the sitters would suggest the later date.

Hope that helps  Smiley

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Re: Would someone please date this photo?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 May 08 01:26 BST (UK) »

I was gong on the life expectancies of the era....For males and females in 1890 it was only around 48-50..I took it with premature aging etc added on.... Wink

Even by 1930 it had only risen to 58...there were of course exceptions!
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Re: Would someone please date this photo?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 16 May 08 12:50 BST (UK) »

Irene, thanks so much for the nice clean-up!  Grin Grin  It is such a poor little photo, I didn't want to ask, but it's much sharper now and nice to look at!!!  Kiss

Prue, thanks  Cheesy for the date if it's closer to 1910 that would make Henry in his early 60s.  He died in 1915. Sarah died at 73 years in 1922.  They were tough North of England stock and I believe they lost their homestead when they couldn't pay their taxes anymore, which would explain the old fashioned clothes.  Sad

Thanks for your help with this too, Beth and Scrimnet, I really appreciate your interest and suggestions.  Cheesy

Kind regards,
Jill
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