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lizdb
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so MAry J was 11 and Luxeydubrey 13 when they were orphaned. I wonder where they went?
Ellen or Agnes could be married by then and they could be with them, but I cant find them. grrrr.
Oooh just had a thought - did someone say Dad was of Welsh origin? So they could have gone to a Welsh granny? Not beyond the realms of possibility.
Methinks a squint at 1861 WELSH census would be an idea, if only to rule this idea out if they are not there.
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lizdb
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Nothing obvious there, though.
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carol8353
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so MAry J was 11 and Luxeydubrey 13 when they were orphaned. I wonder where they went?
I love the way we're all calling this poor girl Luxeydubrey 
My mother in law had 4 kids,when she couldn't think of the right name for the one she wanted she used to call out "you flugey'.
Yeah I'd looked in Wales too,under Rowland/s and Roland/s
Or of course knowing Ancestry they could be down as anything
Carol
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland |
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avm228
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Uh oh 
There is a Sarah ROWLAND, 8 b Holborn, in Newington in 1851 with her parents: HO107/1566/250/4.
Meliora found the Female ROWLAND b Sep 1844 Bloomsbury - what perplexes me about her is that that's the same quarter in which Mary Jane ROWLAND was registered in Holborn 
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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avm228
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As we seem to be having a problem finding the children in later censii could the siblings have emigrated? Can anyone check passenger lists
Outbound passenger lists unfortunately don't start until 1890.
I have searched for Richard Sandon ROWLAND globally but he doesn't seem to be anywhere that I have access to (Eng/Wales/US).
Perhaps Ian knows more about what happened to this family?
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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lizdb
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So it is looking as if neither Sarah, nor "female" are the births of Luxeydubrey.
It is strange if Richard was born Holborn before her and MAry J bn holborn after her, that she was not Holborn.
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avm228
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there is only the baptism of Richard Sandon Rowlands listed
Baptism? Where did you find that? I've tried and failed.
Modified: on re-reading I wonder whether what you meant was that only the registration of his birth (and no marriage or death) is on FreeBMD (?)
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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If you look at Ian's profile,you will see he's in New Zealand.
Maybe that's where all the missing Rowlands went to
And that's why he hasn't replied yet either- the poor chap is still in bed 
Carol
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland |
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avm228
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Presumably this is Richard and Eliza's marriage (IGI, extracted):
Richard ROWLAND
Eliza TAYNTON
27 Jan 1831 Bromley, Kent
I was hoping her maiden name would be Luxeydubrey...
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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