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John or Thomas Poland
« on: Thursday 15 May 08 13:24 BST (UK) »

Was the surname Poland known in Gloucestershire in the 16th century? Or are there probable variant spellings? My wife (a Poland) would like to make her family connection back to England, but the thread ends with Hannah Poland and her two sons, who arrived in Salem, Massachusetts around 1638. There is no record of her husband accompanying her, but separate accounts show a John or Thomas Poland of about the right age also emigrating to Salem at about the right time. Any insights would be much appreciated.
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Re: John or Thomas Poland
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 May 08 13:33 BST (UK) »

Hello!

Welcome to the Gloucestershire board.

Do you have any information to suggest that the POLAND family came from Gloucestershire?  Do you have ages, occupations or anything else?  The more help you can give us, the better we can try to assist.

Kind regards, Arranroots  Wink

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: John or Thomas Poland
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 May 08 14:02 BST (UK) »

Hello Arranroots,

Thanks for the speedy reply. The information we have is sketchy, to say the least. The Gloucestershire presumption is based on Ancestry, Family Search, Rootsweb searches on the Polands who lived in Essex County, Mass. in the 1600s. Most, but not all, link back to Gloucestershire. Then there is an anecdote from my wife's great aunt, who said "How interesting that the Polands left Gloucester, England and ended up in Gloucester, Mass!" The information about Hannah Poland and her two sons (James and John, I think) is certain, as well as their time of arrival (mid- to late-1630's), but the husband's identity is speculative at best. Some alternate spellings of the name which have been suggested are Poling, Powland, Pullen, Pullin, and Palling.

With appreciation, Gary Blackburn
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 May 08 14:08 BST (UK) »

I don;t recognise the name POLAND in Gloucestershire but some of the variants are more familiar.

Have you had a look at any of the surname distribution sites? 

This one is quite good - you could look for the variants but this link  shows POLAND.

I was amazed to find where it occurs!

You might like to refine your request to give specific ages and dates when you know the family were in the New World.

Then if anyone fancies a major task, they could ask at the record office - or you could try contacting them direct.  I suspect that without identifying a parish, you might be onto a loser but you never know!

Kind regards, Arranroots  Wink

p.s. looking at the above site again, the name variants you mention do not appear to be synonyms - some are Norman in origin, some place names etc.  Might need to clarify where those suggestions came from?

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: John or Thomas Poland
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 May 08 14:47 BST (UK) »

Thanks again Arranroots. We're planning to visit England this year, in part to search out my Blackburn roots in Yorkshire. We were hoping to track down some Polands, too. Maybe we'll take a stab at Gloucestershire and see what we can learn. If nothing else, we'll see a part of England we haven't yet explored.

Best regards,

Gary
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