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Passenger Information on Ships to Australia
« on: Sunday 18 May 08 05:54 BST (UK) »

Hi,

I am just wondering if anybody knows of a site where I can find information about a vessel that came to Port Phillip in Australia.

My g-g-g-granny came out on the vessel Neptune which arrived in Port Phillip on 29 march 1841.  I am trying to confirm where the ship started it's journey. I have found the records that confirm her arrival on the NSW site & Victorian site as an Assisted Immigrant (because back then Victoria was under NSW's rule - that one even threw me out & I'm Australian - mustn't have listened too well in Social Studies!)

I did find a mention of the ship's arrival in the Geelong Advertiser that stated the vessel came from London via Plymouth.  Just wanting to confirm where the vessel started as we are trying to work out when she moved from Ireland to England.

Thanks for any help.
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Re: Passenger Information on Ships to Australia
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 May 08 07:43 BST (UK) »

I found a notice in the Shipping Arrivals in the Sydney Free Press  21 April 1841 - don't know if that's any help.  The Neptune had apparently left Port Phillip on 14 April 1841.

http://www.nla.gov.au/ferguson/14401908/18410421/00010031/2-2.pdf

Do you know the date she left England?

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Re: Passenger Information on Ships to Australia
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 May 08 08:16 BST (UK) »

The Ships List mailing list gives some information - it was written in 2002 but should still be relevant:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/TheShipsList/2002-10/1035435357

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Re: Passenger Information on Ships to Australia
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 May 08 09:16 BST (UK) »

The ship is on the NSW and Victorian lists so details would be available at PROV in Melbourne and State Records in NSW. The NSW (and perhaps Vic) records are also available in many other places. If you cannot get copies, you can purchase a transcript from at least one of the NSW transcription agents.

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Re: Passenger Information on Ships to Australia
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 May 08 04:25 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Thanks Trish & Jean for your help.

From what I can gather the ship arrived into Port Phillip 29 March 1841, stayed a while and then sailed onto Sydney, which is the journey you mentioned Jean.

I have found her arrival on both the prov records and NSW records, only the NSW entry allows you to gain a certificate (cost is about $26 plus postage). I couldn't find a list of ships on the site. I see listed a few transcriptions agents that only do BDM, but there is one which I will contact and see if she can point me in the right direction.

I am not sure where she got on, which is why I tried to track the ship backwards, as I said the only information I have on the ship is from the Geelong Advertiser which said it sailed from London via Plymouth.  There is apparently a mention of that particular voyage in a book "Oceans of Consolation".  So I am going to contact my local library to see if they have it, as it seems silly to buy a book (A$39) to read one page.

Thanks for all your help.
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Re: Passenger Information on Ships to Australia
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 May 08 05:03 BST (UK) »

Transcription agents: I would try Laurence Turtle - he goes to State Records regularly.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/lturtle/nsw_state_archives.htm

Please be patient - Laurence is in the process of revising his website.

Have you googled  "Oceans of Consolation"?  Something may turn up.

For a bit of background, there was an ad in the London “Times”, Wednesday, 4 November 1840:

AUSTRALIAN PACKET SHIPS – The fine ship GLENSWILLY, IA 1, DOUGAL McNIEL, Commander, will sail from Gravesend on the 10th and from Plymouth on the 18th November for SYDNEY and PORT PHILIP.

The teak ship SUSAN, of  572 tons register, HENRY NEATBY, Commander, will leave Gravesend on the 25th November, and Plymouth the 3d December for SYDNEY and PORT PHILIP.

The ship NEPTUNE, of 644 tons register, WILLIAM FERRIS, Commander, will sail from Gravesend on the 29th November and from Plymouth the 7th December, for PORT PHILIP and SYDNEY.

The Susan and Neptune are loading at the Jetty in the London Docks.

These are first class ships, have poops, and the highest order of accommodations for cabin, intermediate, and steerage passengers;  are liberally fitted and supplied with provisions, etc. of the choicest quality, carry experienced surgeons, and never deviate (wind and weather permitting) from the day appointed for sailing.  A regular succession of the finest and best equipped ships are dispatched, on fixed days, with strict punctuality, every month during the year, proceeding alternatively to Port Philip and Sydney, and Sydney direct.  A free passage is granted by these ships to a limited number of agricultural labourers and mechanics, if in accordance with the colonial regulations.  All particulars may be known on application, post paid, to Mr John Marshall, 16, Birchin-lane, Cornhill.


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Re: Passenger Information on Ships to Australia
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 May 08 05:52 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Thanks Trish & Jean for your help.

From what I can gather the ship arrived into Port Phillip 29 March 1841, stayed a while and then sailed onto Sydney, which is the journey you mentioned Jean.

I have found her arrival on both the prov records and NSW records, only the NSW entry allows you to gain a certificate (cost is about $26 plus postage). I couldn't find a list of ships on the site. I see listed a few transcriptions agents that only do BDM, but there is one which I will contact and see if she can point me in the right direction.

I am not sure where she got on, which is why I tried to track the ship backwards, as I said the only information I have on the ship is from the Geelong Advertiser which said it sailed from London via Plymouth.  There is apparently a mention of that particular voyage in a book "Oceans of Consolation".  So I am going to contact my local library to see if they have it, as it seems silly to buy a book (A$39) to read one page.

Thanks for all your help.

There is an index of the ships on the NSW site
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=49
1841 Apr 16 NEPTUNE  SHIP Page 147 1841_1866

You could ask Laurie the charge for a copy of your required information. He has obtained information for me from the NSW archives.

Trish


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