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Topic: lookup NZSG CD births & shipping (Read 400 times)
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Lucy2
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Hi Fike
Firstly, just to clarify; there is no NZSG CD which gives birth information. The New Zealand Birth Index is in microfiche format and is available in libraries etc. The Index only shows the surname / christian name(s) of a child and a folio number. With this folio number it then possible to consult a paper-based resource (known as "District Keys") for the relevant year (of birth), and thus determine in which district the birth was registered.
Obviously, as with all searches, you are reliant on the goodwill of RootsChatters and the amount of effort they are prepared to go to. And the more information you are able to supply, the better. (e.g. the children of William and Elizabeth SMITH - are you able to work out their approx. years of birth, say from death records) ?
I'm afraid I wasn't able to locate a passenger list into NZ which shows the arrival of a "Samuel and Eliza Smith".
So, some questions for you ....
1) What information do you already have, which suggests that Willam John and his brother Francis /Frank might have been born in NZ ?
2) Yes, I can see on the Marriage Index CD, William John SMITH and Elizabeth GOODSON - 1883 .... do you have this cert ?
If so, where did they marry ? (Place of marriage is not given on the Index).
3) Where in NZ did this family live ?
4) Did Samuel and Eliza SMITH also make the trip to Australia ?
With regard to your question - "when did they leave NZ" ...
that may be difficult to determine precisely (well at least in terms of an outward voyage) and you'd be better to look at passenger lists for persons "coming into Australia". (Electoral rolls or directories in NZ may provide some clues -
but they shouldn't be relied upon to provide "accurate" information).
Lu
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althea
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Hi
Agree sadly without a distinctive 2nd name this family will be nigh on impossible
There are 10 W J Smiths on 1893 electoral roll and countless Elizabeth's
Looking at shipping into Victoria from NZ is even more of a nighmare
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/Index_search.asp?searchid=23
Buying that marriage cert is a must if you want to proceed, because of the location, occupation info it will provide and or Charles birth cert
Bye
Althea
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Lucy2
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WOW ... Bunny !!
AN absolutely EXCELLENT find !! Well done to you. 
Lu
PS: Ah ha Christine .... so carrots are the answer ?
I'll be forthwith adding them to my diet ... (and dispensing with the boring lettuce). 
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Lucy2
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Hi Fike
re: Bunny's wonderful find ~ (and the children of William John and Elizabeth SMITH, mentioned in the thread found at rootsweb).
There is lots of information to be had by looking at the NSW BDM online index.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/
e.g. Cyril Goodson SMITH - death 1972 - Reg'd. at Campsie
(s/o William John and Elizabeth) ...
and a probable marriage for him - 1918 to Constance G. MEREDITH - reg'd. Canterbury ?
[Most of the other "children" appear to be on this index too - marriages / deaths. It's a great resource especially given that most death records include parent's names of the deceased. I've just recently been able to find lots of my own family listed there and thus move my search forward].
Mmm ... we still haven't found your "Samuel and Eliza SMITH"
yet ?
Lu
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Lucy2
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Dear Bunny .... Super Sleuth and "Queen of the Carrots"
Extra good work !
Cheers
Lu
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