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Could you date this photo please?
« on: Friday 16 May 08 16:04 BST (UK) »
Hi there!

Opinions welcomed for a date for this pic!

Many thanks, Judy  Wink

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« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 May 08 18:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Judy

What a fascinating photo.  Do you know the history? It looks like some kind of dog club and they have won the cup.  Grin

Irene

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« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 May 08 18:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Irene  Cheesy

That is fabulous!!! Thank you very much!!!

It shows my great uncle William, and I think it was taken in the backyard of a pub  Tongue

They do seem to have won a  cup for something, but I cannot read what it says, even at a very high resolution!

Thank you again!!

Judy  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 May 08 00:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Judy, what a cracking photo!

Do you remember OR talking about watch chain holes? There are several threads in which he points out that the use of a regular buttonhole to fasten a man's Albert or watch chain indicates a photo taken prior to 1888/89. It was then that an extra hole between the normal buttonholes came into common use, just for the watch chain.

These men all have their Alberts fastened through the buttonholes. So I would venture to guess that, if not the photo, at least the men's waistcoats date from before 1888 or so. Men not being the slaves to fashion that ladies often are, may be a few years out of date. But since there isn't a dedicated Albert hole in the bunch, could it be fairly close to this date? Is it possible?

There needs to be a woman in the pic...they're easier to date Grin

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 May 08 09:49 BST (UK) »
Hi China!!

Thanks for your fascinating answer! You are a mine of information!!

Of course, I made a mistake by saying it was my great uncle!  Embarrassed I'm not quite that old!!  Tongue

It is my great great uncle, who was born in 1853. He is the one fifth from the left on the back row, with the big moustache!! (Behind the chap who looks like David McCallum Grin) So your date of mid 1880s could be spot on!!

I don't have the original - this is a copy I had made about 10 years ago, and as the person who lent me the original is no longer with us, I have no idea what is written on the back, if anything.

Thanks again for your comments! Much appreciated!

Judy  Wink
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 May 08 18:56 BST (UK) »
Aha...so the time frame could be about right...actually it's OR who is the mine of information Cheesy

Ohhhh....Illya... Grin
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 May 08 19:27 BST (UK) »
Don't be so modest China!! Cheesy Cheesy

I know what you mean about Illya  Roll Eyes Napoleon was always a bit too slick and smarmy, but Illya  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 May 08 20:53 BST (UK) »
I think it was the blond hair and the black sweater...plus he was shy Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 May 08 01:10 BST (UK) »
COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC ...OUCH Prue ..but my grandfather played violin in the scottish orchestra led by David Mcallums father ..   Grin Grin
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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 18 May 08 04:01 BST (UK) »
here's my version Judy ... large one available if you want to print it.. Wink

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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 18 May 08 17:31 BST (UK) »
Wow Poll  Shocked Shocked

That is superb!  Thank you so much!!

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