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1861 lookup : Elizabeth Lyon born c.1853
« on: Saturday 17 May 08 13:49 BST (UK) »

Free BMD records the birth of Elizabeth Lyon, Dec Q 1853 in Huntingdonshire.

Grateful for her 1861 census record.
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Re: 1861 lookup : Elizabeth Lyon born c.1853
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 May 08 14:10 BST (UK) »

Slight difference in d.o.b

Elizabeth born about 1848 in Leighton, Huntingshire.
In 1861 census
Village Street.
Father.  aged 56     William    Agriculture Labourer
Mother          53     Mary
Daughter       13     Elizabeth

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Re: 1861 lookup : Elizabeth Lyon born c.1853
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 May 08 14:16 BST (UK) »



With respect - that Elizabeth and parents are also on the 1851 census, so unless she wasn't registered until she was 5 years old - not the one  Huh  Sad
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Re: 1861 lookup : Elizabeth Lyon born c.1853
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 May 08 14:23 BST (UK) »

Slight difference but this is not unusual in old records.   Many thanks for your help.
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Re: 1861 lookup : Elizabeth Lyon born c.1853
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 May 08 14:26 BST (UK) »

Could not find her entry in the Births of 1853.
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Re: 1861 lookup : Elizabeth Lyon born c.1853
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 May 08 14:28 BST (UK) »

Must be my eyesite as I carnt see an Elizabeth Lyon born 1853 Hunts Huh Huh

there's one born 1862  Huh

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Re: 1861 lookup : Elizabeth Lyon born c.1853
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 May 08 14:28 BST (UK) »


This one is also possible:

1861:  RG9  P. 960 Fol. 22 Pg. 12

Living Ringstead, Northamptonshire

LYON
Job  Head  M  34  Shoemaker   B. Northants. Ringstead
Elizabeth  Wife  M  29  Dressmaker  B.  Northants Denfold
Elizabeth  Dau  7  Scholar           B. Northants, Ringstead
William Son  4                               B    ~        ~
Thomas E  Son  2                                ~         ~
Thomas Hornby  Nephew 13  Shoemaker  B.  Northants Woolaston

Ringstead is within the registration district covered at that time by Thrapston, where Elizabeth's birth was registered.
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Re: 1861 lookup : Elizabeth Lyon born c.1853
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 May 08 14:30 BST (UK) »

The last two have crossed.

Free BMD and Elizabeth's (Mitchell from 1871) census records for 1881 and 1891 put her birth around 1853.

1881 records her birth in Somersham, Huntingdonshire, 1891 records Turmmsinn, Huntingdonshire - the latter looks like a bad spelling Undecided
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Re: 1861 lookup : Elizabeth Lyon born c.1853
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 17 May 08 14:43 BST (UK) »

Hi Gerry

do you mean she was married on the 1871 census, as have found this one on the 1871

Thomas Leyion? head mar 46 lab Hunts Somersham
Martha       "       wife mar 40            "      Bluntisham
Elizabeth    "       dau u/m 19 cotton Huh Hunts Somersham
Henry         "        son u/m 15      "    Huh           "
Sarah Ann  "       dau u/m 12      "   rover          "
John   L?      "     son u/m 5 scholar                    "
Mary             "    dau u/m 1                      Lancs Bacup?

living at Gravier Wier terr, Higher Booths, Lancs
Rg10/ 4137
folio 58
page 15

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Re: 1861 lookup : Elizabeth Lyon born c.1853
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 17 May 08 14:46 BST (UK) »

This thread has attracted much response, can I just recap:

Free BMD records the birth of Elizabeth Lyon, Dec Q 1853, Thrapston District, Vol 3b, Page 154.   Thrapston is described as spanning the boundaries of Huntingdonshire and Northamptonshire

Elizabeth's 1881/1891 census records are consistant with Huntingdonshire and her birth as c.1853.

I was trying to find the name of Elizabeth's parents, nothing more.
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Re: 1861 lookup : Elizabeth Lyon born c.1853
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 17 May 08 14:51 BST (UK) »

As Mum44 says, the birth was registered in Thrapston registration district, and the Ringstead 1861 entry looks more likely to be the one than someone whose birth was said to be Somersham, which was in  St Ives registration district.

It's quite possible that her birth wasn't registered as 1853 was still early days in the era of civil registration.

But if you're just looking for parents then Ricky's 1871 census entry seems to provide the answer

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: 1861 lookup : Elizabeth Lyon born c.1853
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 17 May 08 14:51 BST (UK) »

Hi Gerry

well in 1881 she was in Bacup, which is where I found the family on the 1871 Huh

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Re: 1861 lookup : Elizabeth Lyon born c.1853
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 17 May 08 15:06 BST (UK) »



FMP index:  Elizabeth Lyon. Q1. 1853  St. Ives.  3b. 256
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Re: 1861 lookup : Elizabeth Lyon born c.1853
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 17 May 08 15:08 BST (UK) »

For some reason best known to the enumerator they seem to have been enumerated as Brown in 1861!
RG9/977 folio 10B
Church St, Somersham
Thomas Brown head marr 36 ag lab b Somersham
Martha Brown wife 31 chairwoman b Bluntisham
Hannah Brown dau 10 b Somersham
Elizabeth Brown dau 8 b Somersham
Henry Brown son 6 b Somersham
Sarah Ann Brown dau 2 b Somersham

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: 1861 lookup : Elizabeth Lyon born c.1853
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 17 May 08 15:20 BST (UK) »

Mum44, what's FMP?  FreeBMD haven't quite completed transcribing this quarter which explains why it's not coming up in a search.

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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