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Martin Briscoe
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Some friends' family have a Golden Clark in Orsett
Does anyone know the origin of the first name "Golden" and why it is concentrated in East Anglia?
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BRISCOE - Bolton, Heaton Norris, Rochdale, Oldham, Chadderton, Blackburn
POUNDER - Middleton Tyas, Kirkbymoorside, Stokesley, Lambeth, Bolton, Newcastle on Tyne, Leeds
HAMMOND - Quebec, Laverton, Masham, Grantley
SWALES - Laverton, Masham
O'Shea - Quebec
PARRY - Caerhun, Deiniolen, Clwt y Bont, Brynrefail, Tal y Sarn, Brynrefail, Bethesda
EVANS - Llanfihangel Bryn Pabuan, Maesmynis, Dowlais, Stockton on Tees, Hartlepool, Trealaw
HARVEY - Trentham, Sheriffhales, Llanfyllin, Llanferres, Minera
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CaroleW
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Hi
These are the numbers of census entries with a first name of Golden:
1841 70 including the delectable Golden Bacon (male) in Essex
1851 108
1861 117
1871 142
1881 158
1891 193
1901 180
The christian name was widespread throughout many counties within East Anglia. I don't know whether this link may be of use
http://www.fairhead.org.uk/misc/origin.pdf
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Martin Briscoe
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I looked on Ancestry and if you open up those years then most are in East Anglia and the surrounding area.
Hair colour is one possibility that I had not considered though it could well be the reason originally.
Martin Briscoe
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BRISCOE - Bolton, Heaton Norris, Rochdale, Oldham, Chadderton, Blackburn
POUNDER - Middleton Tyas, Kirkbymoorside, Stokesley, Lambeth, Bolton, Newcastle on Tyne, Leeds
HAMMOND - Quebec, Laverton, Masham, Grantley
SWALES - Laverton, Masham
O'Shea - Quebec
PARRY - Caerhun, Deiniolen, Clwt y Bont, Brynrefail, Tal y Sarn, Brynrefail, Bethesda
EVANS - Llanfihangel Bryn Pabuan, Maesmynis, Dowlais, Stockton on Tees, Hartlepool, Trealaw
HARVEY - Trentham, Sheriffhales, Llanfyllin, Llanferres, Minera
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findem
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If you have a look on this site, it gives the origin of the first name Goldie, from which Golden may have been derived.
www.behindthename.com/nmc/eng.php
regards.
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Martin Briscoe
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Thanks, I did look there for "GOLDEN" but not derivitives of the name.
It does not explain the concentration in East Anglia.
I have a vague memory of one of the Who Do You Think You Are programmes where someone (Barbara Windsor?) was connected to Essex and had an ancestor with a similar name which was explained as being from a prominent family in the area. But can't remember the details.
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BRISCOE - Bolton, Heaton Norris, Rochdale, Oldham, Chadderton, Blackburn
POUNDER - Middleton Tyas, Kirkbymoorside, Stokesley, Lambeth, Bolton, Newcastle on Tyne, Leeds
HAMMOND - Quebec, Laverton, Masham, Grantley
SWALES - Laverton, Masham
O'Shea - Quebec
PARRY - Caerhun, Deiniolen, Clwt y Bont, Brynrefail, Tal y Sarn, Brynrefail, Bethesda
EVANS - Llanfihangel Bryn Pabuan, Maesmynis, Dowlais, Stockton on Tees, Hartlepool, Trealaw
HARVEY - Trentham, Sheriffhales, Llanfyllin, Llanferres, Minera
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Diblet
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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I've got a branch from the Witham area of Essex who have at least one child in each generation with the name "Golden".
I presume once an ancestor was given a name like that future generations wanted to keep it going and therefore more and more men with that name appeared. Also, other families may have liked the name so copied it.
Interesting comment about the jewish connection. My Golden's surname was "Isaacs" which definitely sounds as though it had jewish origins. All the family were C of E though.
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Martin Briscoe
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I've got a branch from the Witham area of Essex who have at least one child in each generation with the name "Golden".
I presume once an ancestor was given a name like that future generations wanted to keep it going and therefore more and more men with that name appeared. Also, other families may have liked the name so copied it.
Interesting comment about the jewish connection. My Golden's surname was "Isaacs" which definitely sounds as though it had jewish origins. All the family were C of E though.
It is possible that it is something like that but there 70 in 1841 rising to 200 in 1901
We have an example in my family where in the mid to late 19th Century various people were given "Daley" as their second name after my Great Great Grandmother's maiden name, but there were never that many. It has continued right through to the present day in one line of the family.
There seem to be too many using Golden for it to be one family and spread over all the counties of East Anglia but there must be some common factor.
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BRISCOE - Bolton, Heaton Norris, Rochdale, Oldham, Chadderton, Blackburn
POUNDER - Middleton Tyas, Kirkbymoorside, Stokesley, Lambeth, Bolton, Newcastle on Tyne, Leeds
HAMMOND - Quebec, Laverton, Masham, Grantley
SWALES - Laverton, Masham
O'Shea - Quebec
PARRY - Caerhun, Deiniolen, Clwt y Bont, Brynrefail, Tal y Sarn, Brynrefail, Bethesda
EVANS - Llanfihangel Bryn Pabuan, Maesmynis, Dowlais, Stockton on Tees, Hartlepool, Trealaw
HARVEY - Trentham, Sheriffhales, Llanfyllin, Llanferres, Minera
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Martin Briscoe
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Just a though - is it a corruption of that other East Anglian Christian name Golding? John Constable's father was Golding Constable.
Carole
I think that might have been the explanation given on the Who Do You Think You Are programme.
Golding is certainly much more common as a first name than Golden, 29,000 in England 1851, and there do seem to be more of them in East Anglia.
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BRISCOE - Bolton, Heaton Norris, Rochdale, Oldham, Chadderton, Blackburn
POUNDER - Middleton Tyas, Kirkbymoorside, Stokesley, Lambeth, Bolton, Newcastle on Tyne, Leeds
HAMMOND - Quebec, Laverton, Masham, Grantley
SWALES - Laverton, Masham
O'Shea - Quebec
PARRY - Caerhun, Deiniolen, Clwt y Bont, Brynrefail, Tal y Sarn, Brynrefail, Bethesda
EVANS - Llanfihangel Bryn Pabuan, Maesmynis, Dowlais, Stockton on Tees, Hartlepool, Trealaw
HARVEY - Trentham, Sheriffhales, Llanfyllin, Llanferres, Minera
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findem
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The name Golden rung a bell and brought to mind something I'd seen in the Doomsday book, I have a translated copy of the Essex part.
There is mention of Golding who was a burgess of King William at Colchester and held one house, so perhaps as others have suggested it is derived from someone's surname, it's not unknown for some people to have as a first name, one that is usually a surname.
Or perhaps Golden goes way back and was a nickname. The Essex part of the Doomsday book also mentions a Humfrid who annexed land in the Hundred of Dunmow. It names him as "humfrid aurie testeculi", Humfrid translates to Humphrey and aurie as golden and you can work the third word out for yourselves. The book gives the translation as Humphrey Goldenb******s, at the back of the book a note suggests that the nickname is "Perhaps a nickname for a man who had sired many children".
The book is entitled HISTORY FROM THE SOURCES, DOOMSDAY BOOK, General editor John Morris, I received it as a present and it was purchased I believe from the ERO.
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