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Topic: Snell nee Cooper to USA in the 20's (Read 325 times)
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AMBLY
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Hi lookingforold
Just 'joining' this up with your other topic, as it has a little extra info from it :
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,296678.msg1790884.html#msg1790884
I am looking for my grand mother who came to this country from USA with the name 'Claudia COOPER' about 1900/10. Got married to an 'Earnest SNELL' and had my mother in 1910 at Acton, Miidlesex. Between 1910 and about 1925 she returned to the USA, it is beleived on her own. Any info on her would be very welcomed. Can find no mention of a marriage, but shown as married on my mother's birth cert.
On another topic, you were also looking for the address 41 Myrtle Road, Brentford, Acton, MDX to try and glean who might have been there in August 1910, so I imagine this must be the address where Mum was born?
Can you please tell us how old Earnest was ? I know Claudia may have been much older or younger than he, but then again maybe they were of a similar age and it may help. (assume you have no problem in tracing Ernest back). Did he 'remarry' and if so, did he state he was a bachelor at that time? (again if he did, it's no proof he was....but)
I can't see a likley Claudia (var) SNELL or COOPER on the Findmypast migration database out of UK, Unfortunately, have to search by a surname, so if she did leave the UK up to 1960 on a ship, it may have been on yet another different surname
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AMBLY
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AMBLY
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Hi again
Long shot...but
Ellis Island
http://www.ellisisland.org/
A ship named Minnekahda sailed from Southampton 25 AuG 1924, and arrived 3 Sep 1924
On the list of returning US citizens was a woman named Claudia SMITH.............
Female, age 55, widow, born 20 Feb 18?9 New York, NY - Address in US is: 462, St, Delaware Ave, Buffalo, NY
Her age is clearly stated as 55. But her birth year is either stated as 1869 or 1889 - hard to make out, could be either (and I am looking at a version of the manifest not on Ellis Island dB, which I can zoom up really large).
If she was 55 - she was born abt 1869 and in 1910 would have been abt 41 ......
If she was born 1889, then in 1910 she would have been abt 21 and in 1924 abt 35.
Findmypast migration dB - has her indexed as Clandie SMITH age 55.
Cheers
AMBLY
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LissaM
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi, lookingforold
Another longshot.....
1930 Raton, Colfax, New Mexico Park Ave.
Claudia Snell Age: 40 b. abt 1890 Widow Age @ 1st Marriage: 25 (1915) Birthplace: Missouri F: Ohio M: Missouri Lodger in a Hotel Occupation: Seamtress Employed Where: "Room"
Can't find her for sure married in 1920 -- only another long shot possibility Claud Snell (female) in Richmond, Howard Co., MO Widow Age 31 (1889) b. MO, Parent: MO living w/ her mother Annie L. Mitchell 52 also a widow.
There are quite a few Claudia Cooper's in 1910 -- any idea on where she was born or where she lived before going to England?? Or any clue to her parent's names or any siblings??
lissa
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lookingforold
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A big thank you for all your replies. Gives me something to work on. Re Earnest, I have very little info. I know that in 1932 he was listed as already dead but had been a 'Chaufeur'. Now I have found on the 1901 Census two Earnest Snells. One aged 19, b:1882, 'Horseman on a Farm' living in Ingleby, Lincs and another aged 18, b: 1883, 'Waggoner on a Farm, born & living at Hedworth, Lincs. No info other than already given for Claudia Snell nee Cooper. Cannot find any B, M, or D records. Hearsay states that she 'went' to America. Mum was living with someone else from about 1922. Mum's Marriage Cert states her dead father was a Chaufeur. (Horse or car not known).
Thanks again to you all. It has given menew lines to follow.
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Cooper/Snell Brentford cira 1910
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KathMc
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I had a look through the 1900 census, figuring Claudia would already be in England in the 1910, but couldn't find any Claudia Cooper.
Kath
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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KathMc
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Not an easy one. How very frustrating. Keep at it and Rootschaters are always here to help.
Kath
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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AMBLY
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Hi Lookingforold
I was going to ask if Ernest served in WW1, thinking if his record were found it may have something on it about Claudia or his children - but without knowing anything about him....that's a bit hard too!
In advance - Sorry for the barrage of questions   - but they keep crossing my mind ....
What was Ernest's occupation given as on Mum's birth certificate?
If your Mum's birth is the one I think it is, can you tell us what her middle names were (by PM if you would prefer) ? Perhaps they might help tie in to something further down the track?
Do you have any reason other than the Census of possible Ernest SNELL's in Lincs, to lean toward that county?
Do you have any particular reason for saying she "came to UK in the timeframe 1900-1910 from USA?
Cheers
AMBLY
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KathMc
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Sorry if this has been covered, but did you find Ernest's death in the BMDs? Do you think he had died and that is when/why Claudia went back to America? It could possibly have been a temporary thing and then she too died, leaving your mom an orphan. The WWI angle is a good one to follow up on also.
Kath
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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AMBLY
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Hi
Yet another question...
On Mum's birth certificate - who informed of the birth - Mum or Dad, or another person?
Also, the birth registration I thought was the right one 1910 Brentford says Annie O C SNELL.
If Mum was "rehomed" as the result of loss of her parents or loss of at least her sole care-giving parent through death or otherwise - perhaps a care society was involved in her being placed with another family. The fact Mum kept her own name - may suggest she was only ever fostered and in turn, that may suggest a bilogical connection - I imagine you would have followed her 'adoptive' family backward to see if you could spot anything? Mum does not ever recall being in a "home" prior to 1922?
It seems the middle name OLIVER should have some significance too, being either a surname or a male forename.....
Going back to the occupant of address of your mother's birth in 1911 - an Alfred Chandler. Out if interest.....
An Alfred Oliver CHANDLER b 1858 Derby, Derbyshire, a schoolmaster - married a Margaret Anne HARRAP Sep Qtr 1884 in Camberwell.
They are in Lambeth in both the 1891 and 1901 Census and appear to have only had the one daughter, Margaret born abr 1889 in Surrey.
Then there is a Ruth Claudia COOPER who was born 1880 Middlesex to Harold COOPER and Catherine Jane COOPER. She is on the 1891 and 1901 with her parents as Ruth C, and appears to have married a man named WHITE in 1904 per FREEBMD Which is not to say she necessarily stayed with her husband....She is (briefly) also on this website:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gilwit/106cpr/4brcc.htm
cheers
AMBLY
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