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Re: help with 1871 census pls
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 22 May 08 18:58 BST (UK) »

a possible maybe for 1871-
patrick grady 26yrs patient lunatic in cheshire county lunatic assylum
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Re: help with 1871 census pls
« Reply #16 on: Friday 23 May 08 16:40 BST (UK) »

thanks for that alli i will look at this over the next 48 hours and let you know what i come up with
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Re: help with 1871 census pls
« Reply #17 on: Friday 23 May 08 23:46 BST (UK) »

Hi all

I had a look as well.

On the 1871 Michael and Ellen Horan are living in High Street Stockport(page 15) RG10 3659
I scrolled down a few pages to see if Mary and Patrick were living near the parents and found - page 10 and there's a Patrick Gready with a wife Mary and children Thomas and Mary (born Ireland)also living in High Street Stockport.
I was uncertain at first then thought that perhaps the enumerator might have transcribed the surname as Gready.
Patrick and Mary are either living with or next door to Thomas Heraty in 1871.
Reference RG10 3659.

When I read Alli's post and saw that she found a Patrick Grady on the 1861 in High Street and living with Thomas Heraty - realised it could possibly be the same Patrick (Grady in 1861 then Gready in 1871)in 1871 but now with a wife Mary and two children.
Not too far from Michael and Ellen Horan -same street.

Maybe if you have a look and see what you think ?(the age is slightly different-but often changes on the census records) but it's a possibility.

The birth certificate of one of the children(Thomas or Mary)would give the mother's maiden name.

Hope this might help

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Re: help with 1871 census pls
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 24 May 08 18:50 BST (UK) »

thanks neptune, i will take a look at this later in the weekend. thanks for your input
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Re: help with 1871 census pls
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 24 May 08 19:17 BST (UK) »

Hi Belinda

You're welcome-

I suppose it depends on how Patrick pronounced his surname to the enumerator-depending on his accent.

I think that Patrick Gready on the 1871 census may be the right one -just had a look at the Cheshire BMD site and there's a Thomas Grady born in Stockport in 1865 and a Mary Ellen Grady born in Stockport in 1866. The mother's maiden name for both if them is Horan.

These were the names of the two children of Patrick and Mary Gready in 1871.

What do you think?

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Re: help with 1871 census pls
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 25 May 08 17:40 BST (UK) »

i think your info looks great - i will look at this tonight it seems correct to me - i will let you know later
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Re: help with 1871 census pls
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 25 May 08 18:39 BST (UK) »

hi neptune, i am either being really thick or doing this when i am tired i have looked at 1871 census but this still keeps showing a thomas grady and not patrick - whats wwrong Huh

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Re: help with 1871 census pls
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 25 May 08 19:18 BST (UK) »

Hi Belinda

First I found Michael and Ellen Horan then scrolled back a few pages to find Patrick.

If you just want to search for Patrick try Patrick Greany born 1840 Ireland.
(Try enlarging the page - it doesn't really look like Greany possibly Gready?)

You should see him there with his wife Mary and children Thomas and Mary E.

When you find them -if you go forward a few pages but still living in the same street you should find Michael and Ellen Horan.

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Re: help with 1871 census pls
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 25 May 08 22:00 BST (UK) »

Hi again

A possibility on the 1881

Patrick and Mary Grady , Mary E and Thomas,also with a daughter Catherine.

Cheshire BMD has Catherine Grady born 1871 - mother's surname is Horan.

Reference RG11 3749 Folio 9 page11

On the Cheshire BMD there's also Ann Grady born 1869 and Ellen Grady born 1873 - mother's maiden name for both is Horan(just select the surname Grady - no christian name and select several years)

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Re: help with 1871 census pls
« Reply #24 on: Monday 26 May 08 18:18 BST (UK) »

hi again neptune, just got home from work - i am going to try what you suggested and i will let you know how i get on.
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Re: help with 1871 census pls
« Reply #25 on: Monday 26 May 08 18:40 BST (UK) »

Hi again Belinda,

Ok. If you have any problems I can send you the image to see what you think.

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Re: help with 1871 census pls
« Reply #26 on: Monday 26 May 08 18:48 BST (UK) »

hi neptune - i have now found the 1871 and 1881 census with the instructions you gave me - they do look like this family however it would mean that mary has lost 10 years over a 20 yr period in 1861 she was down as being 27 Huh

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what is your thoughts on this ??
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Re: help with 1871 census pls
« Reply #27 on: Monday 26 May 08 20:20 BST (UK) »

Hi again

The ages are often not quite right. They do seem to be different on the census records. You'd probably have to get some certificates.
Do you know she was definitely Mary Horan?

On Cheshire BMD there's also a marriage of Patrick Grady to Mary Sheridan in 1867.

On the 1871 there's another a Patrick Grady and wife Mary(transcribed as May in the index),both aged 26 - with daughter Margaret. He is the son in law of Bridget Sheridan - address is 55 High Street. - RG10 3659.
(this is as well as the Patrick and Mary Greany/Gready in 1871).

In 1881 this Patrick and Mary are still living at 55 High Street now both aged 32??and both born in Mayo. Also living with them is their daughter Margaret and sister in law Bridget Sheridan. - RG113746/45.

It may be worth a look

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Re: help with 1871 census pls
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 29 May 08 07:35 BST (UK) »

hi there neptune, sorry i have been off line for a ocuple of days. hope you are well. i am sure it is mary horan - she was the sister of my gt gt grandfather.
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