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Re: Rangitaeki 1956?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 22 May 08 09:42 BST (UK) »

Christine,  Thanks for that cross referencing.
The RSA website shows then to be just what I thought it would be. Thanks also for that link.

All this makes me feel very sorry for that poor foolish man.

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Re: Rangitaeki 1956?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 22 May 08 10:47 BST (UK) »

Hi Charlotte,

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No I don't have a death cert.  Has been suggested that as he died intestate there may not be one included in the probate papers.

You can order his death certificate from the Department of Internal Affairs with just his full name and place and year of death.
NZ death certificates can provide a lot of information including marriage and number and ages of children - depending on who the informant was of course.
Ask for a "printout" - it's cheaper ($20 NZ) and has better information.
You can order by phone, fax or post.

Details and forms here: www.bdm.govt.nz
Also see the thread at the top of the NZ board about BDM certificates.

Cheers,
Stephanie
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Re: Rangitaeki 1956?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 22 May 08 10:57 BST (UK) »

Hi Charlotte

Mmmm ... meant to post my findings on "Rangitaeki" earlier today, so by now some ground has already been covered.

My thoughts were similar to Bren's,  in that I suspect Edward was resident at the small settlement of Rangitaeki (now known as "Rangitaiki") on the Napier-Taupo Road,  and that he was possibly involved in a road maintenance role.    

This road (today known as State Highway 5), has long been in existence (from c. 1880's) - first motor vehicle to use it dates around 1902.     A description from 1950's states .... "a Napier-Taupo journey was still considered hazardous ... a traveller was likely to encounter, choking dust, potholes, washouts, corrugations in the road - as only about one third of it had been sealed".     Even today, the road is somewhat treacherous - often closed by snow, rockfalls, in winter - so always a need for maintenance people to be on hand.    It's scenic beauty - forests, rivers, mountain views - its saving grace.   So in Edward's day, yes, a rather remote, but beautiful, place.

Just can't find any info though, on "Rangitaiki - the place"  !
If you're wanting to learn more, the Napier Library may  be able to assist.   (See the City Council link posted on other thread).    The National Library catalogue shows two publications which may contain references to "Rangitaiki", and Napier Library should have copies of these.

>   "Coaches North" by Len Anderson (story of the Hawkes Bay Motor Company - covers the development of the Napier-Taupo Road).

>    "100 Years on the Napier-Taupo Road"  (compiled by the Historic Affairs Committee at the Hawkes Bay & East Coast Art Society (Napier NZ) :

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Re: Rangitaeki 1956?
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 22 May 08 11:05 BST (UK) »



        "Occupation Roadman Warrant No. 282
                               R.S.A "


Just a thought on the above.

I actually think "Warrant No. 282"  .... is the reference to the Burial Warrant   Huh     

Perhaps it should read  ...

>   Occupation:   Roadman
>   Warrant No. 282 - RSA   (meaning its a burial warrant for a plot in the Returned Servicemen's Section of the cemetery) ??

Lu

PS:  Haven't forgotten your "look-up" ... will do, either tomorrow or Saturday.
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Re: Rangitaeki 1956?
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 22 May 08 11:23 BST (UK) »

Hi Charlotte

Had to smile  Wink

"All this makes me feel very sorry for that poor foolish man"

Edward could have been living the good life on that Napier Taupo Highway, I know my brother in law tries to get there, when ever he can to go pig hunting.  I was feeling for the women he played around with.

Found a photo of where he will be resting.

http://www.napier.govt.nz/index.php?cid=facilities/cemeteries/cem_history_wharerangi&mid=51

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Re: Rangitaeki 1956?
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 22 May 08 13:31 BST (UK) »

Christine-You shatter my moment of good will towards a bad egg- or at least a foolish man!

The cem link you gave me  has a nice bit in it. Returned Servicemans organistions are much to be appreciated. for their long term commitment.
"In addition Napier’s first cemetery dedicated to Returned Services men and women was established. A Book of Remembrance is open to view daily in the open sided shrine. "

And Lu, the warrant as # 282 is probably correct. 

I have learned so much in the last week thatnks to you all.

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Re: Rangitaeki 1956?
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 24 May 08 06:12 BST (UK) »

Hi Charlotte

Have just found your other thread, with the headstone details.

Will place it here for reference

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,304890.0.html

Thanks heaps Christine


To the above "other" thread, has been added a funeral notice for

 >     BLAKEY, Edward ("Yorky") - d. 30 July 1956 at
Napier :

[I feel sure that Charlotte will have some more questions? ]   Roll Eyes   Grin

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Re: Rangitaeki 1956?
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 25 May 08 03:41 BST (UK) »

Hi Charlotte,

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Re: Rangitaeki 1956?
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 25 May 08 04:00 BST (UK) »

Hi Charlotte,

I am interested in your subject. We live in Napier, Hawkes Bay, N.Z.  Before we moved to Napier we lived in the Taupo area. To those not familiar with N.Z. geography Taupo is the lake in the middle of the North Island. Between Taupo & Napier on Highway 5 is a settlement by the name of Rangitaeki. The only landmarks there now are the pub, school & small wayside cafe! It is quite likely that your Mr. Hastings was a roadman there. That road has always been a main route since the horse & coach days. I understand the original pub was a coach stop but was burnt down. Now there are some very productive large dairy farms in the area. You can guarantee he was hardy if he lived there as Rangitaeki has a very harsh winter climate!

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Re: Rangitaeki 1956?
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 25 May 08 05:08 BST (UK) »



 The only landmarks there now are the pub, school & small wayside cafe!


Are you sure about "a school" being located there now ?

Mmmm ... (as previously mentioned)  - rather difficult to find much info on "Rangitaeki / Rangitaiki" - it's history or status today ?

Did find mention of "Rangitaiki Pub - late 1950's - owned by Bob Morris" which seemed to have been located on the Napier-Taupo road ?



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Re: Rangitaeki 1956?
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 25 May 08 05:29 BST (UK) »

Hi Lucy,

Yes there is definitely a school there. It is just back off the road Taupo side of the Lochinver sign & the cafe. Lochinver is a very large sheep station. They could possibly even hold some history of the district.
Have been past there many times.

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Re: Rangitaeki 1956?
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 25 May 08 08:28 BST (UK) »

Eleanor, Lu and other kind souls... thanks for the info- had tried to find by googling details of where he lived but had no real info relevant to 1950s or present.   It sounds remote and yes, he was obviously on a road maintenence gang.

The most incredible things about all this is that in England prior to 1927 he'd been a "gentleman"? of independent means- had been Hon Sec of Rugby Club as an occupation at most.  Then he gets booted out of England by his wife's older brothers- she had 6-for playing around,  left  his money there for her and their child and then had to make his way in NZ.   Doesn't seem to have been a roaring success with a new career .

Poor silly chump. Hope he thought in retrospect that the local lassies he played with were worth it!

Charlotte
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