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Topic: Could this have been taken in 1892? (Read 861 times)
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chinakay
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Hello Irish, welcome to Rootschat 
The hairstyles on the women is the big clue to the date of this photo, I think. A style called the Pompadour started in about the 1892-1895 timeframe according to our resident expert on hair and clothing styles, Old Rowley. The woman on the left of the photo is wearing a classic pompadour, so this photo could well have been taken around the date you suggest.
Hair and clothing styles would likely have been fairly parallel with styles in Britain and America, as ladies were heavily influenced by the fashion magazines and adopted whatever was in those magazines at the time.
You may have other opinions, of course, but 1892 is a good bet.
If you would like any restoration done to this lovely old photo, you should scan it at a higher resolution, 300-600dpi, and post a larger version of it.
Cheers,
China
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The leg-of-mutton sleeve is constructed with a full top that is gathered into the armhole. The fabric then tapers gradually to tuck in closely at the wrist, which gives the sleeve the bell-shaped outline, just like a leg of mutton. This type of sleeve was first seen in 1824, but eventually made a comeback in the swinging days of the 1890s.
also - from wikipedia:~
Early 1890s dresses consisted of a tight bodice with the skirt gathered at the waist and falling more naturally over the hips and undergarments than in previous years.
The mid 1890s introduced leg o'mutton sleeves, which grew in size each year until they disappeared in about 1896. During the same period of the mid '90s, skirts took on an A-line silhouette that was almost bell-like. The late 1890s returned to the tighter sleeves often with small puffs or ruffles capping the shoulder but fitted to the wrist. Skirts took on a trumpet shape, fitting more closely over the hip and flaring just above the knee. Corsets in the 1890s helped define the hourglass figure as immortalized by artist Charles Dana Gibson. In the very late 1890s the corset elongated, giving the women a slight S-curve silhouette that would be popular well into the Edwardian era.
if you go to wikipedia here:~
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1890s_in_fashion
there are some images further down the page
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IrishOrigins
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Thank you everyone for your help. This is definitely becoming more exciting, and it seems more likely every minute that this is indeed the family I hoped it would be.
If I could impose on your good will a little longer?
My mother's grandmother, Ellen, was born in 1846. Could she be the lady on the left? The eldest daughter, Elizabeth, was born in 1865. Lady on the right? The lass sitting on the chair has been tentatively identified as the second daughter, Julia, born 1871. I am lousy at guessing ages but my incredibly inaccurate eye seems to indicate these ages fit, again, with 1892.
The family was definitely far from wealthy and would only have had studio photos taken for very special occasions. A son, William, was married in Ipswich (Qld) in 1892, which gave me a possible occasion and the year as a guessing point. Also, "Elizabeth" is holding a photo which appears to be of a man but I can't blow the image up enough to be sure. The father was in Dunwich Benevolent Asylum, had been admitted in 1889; could the second photo be of him?
I would love to see a restoration of this photo and will improve resolution and repost as suggested.
There is another point about this mysterious photo too, but I'll leave that until later. One type of question at a time, I think?
Thank you again for your time and interest and invaluable assistance.
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IrishOrigins
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Hi Deb.
In my excitement at seeing a "new" old photo, I almost forgot I'd mentioned the other mystery.
At the risk of making an utter ass of myself I'll now explain.
Go to either of the untouched original scans I posted or to the black and white version that Charles provided - they all give clear representations of my mystery.
On the wall above the girl sitting on the chair, and to our left of the taller lass standing, there is a clear but vague image which to me looks like an Asian man with a cap and a high necked jacket. Not modern day Asian, but definitely Asian in flavour.
When I first saw it I thought it was my Chinese great-grandfather putting in an appearance to let me know it really was his wife and family I was looking at. If only!!!!!
For a while I floated around in a WOW cloud of euphoria and "what ifs" but common sense eventually prevailed and I thudded back to earth and started thinking more logically, even though those possibilities are a lot less exciting to consider.
The most logical thought was that the image was created by having another photo in the frame behind this one. I asked my cousin about this but he said the photo was on its own when he found it, and he didn't mention other photos from the same era being in the house.
Then I realised that the lass on the right was holding what looked like a photo, and my eagle eyes "found" that the outline on that photo seemed to match the image on the wall. My question then was, could this have been the photo which had been stored behind the group, causing the image to appear?
I also realised that my rather vivid imagination can create something I want to see from almost nothing, but I'm still convinced that the image is real and not something I've conjured up. It will be interesting to see what other people think.
Check it out, Deb, and see what you think.
Shall I throw down the gauntlet of challenge? No need, I know, and I can't wait to hear reactions.
I just hope that the consensus doesn't come up with the explanation that it is all staining combined with wishful thinking and an all too vivid imagination!!!!
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