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early look up please john and mary jusge
« on: Friday 23 May 08 09:04 BST (UK) »
John Goodricke Judge married Mary Carolina Harris 26/12/1811 at St. matthew Bethnal Green.
thy had 2 boys Peter and John both christened 1814. no births dates sorry.
i have John marrying Sarah Howell in 1838 but Peter i have only a marriage record 1846 and have already done a request on here for him.
but i would love to find out what happened to their parents. if i could find the 41,51 census it would give me mums dates and where born. thank you


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Re: early look up please john and mary jusge
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 May 08 09:22 BST (UK) »
1851
HO107 1772 44 50

London Rd Romford

MAry C Judge 55 widow  bn Bethnal Green
Sarah 11 dtr bn Romford
JAmes 4 son bn Romford
Eliza  Herpeth?  22 lodger laundress


Hmm I wonder if Sarah and James are really her children, as she would be 51 when James born
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Re: early look up please john and mary jusge
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 May 08 09:28 BST (UK) »
Looks like Sarah was

1841
HO107 330 14
High Road Romford Essex
John Judge 47 Whitesmith
MAry 45
Eleanor 13
Frances 11
Carolina 9
George 5
Sarah 2

parents not bn on county, all children are bn in county
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Re: early look up please john and mary jusge
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 May 08 09:34 BST (UK) »
1861

26 Margent Str Shoreditch

Mary C Judge widow 65 bn Bethnal Green
MAry A Judge 45 dtr unmarried bn Whitechapel
James 19 son unm bn Romford


I'll go back and have another squint at 1851 to see if James age could be 9 instead on 4...!
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Re: early look up please john and mary jusge
« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 May 08 09:37 BST (UK) »
Yes - certainly a possiblilty! Guess she was his mum after all.

Bigger family than you bargained for? , 5 children on 1851, plus James born after, plus at least 3 older ones, Mary A, and Peter and John that you knew about!.
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 May 08 09:43 BST (UK) »
1871
RG10 469 35 13
6 Gloucester Terrace stLeonards Shoreditch

Mary C Judge 75 widow bn Bethnal Green
Sarah dtr 30 unm servant bn Romford Essex
James son unm 28 Gas fitter bnRomford Ex
william Forbes lodger
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 May 08 09:44 BST (UK) »
1881
RG11 84 93 13

Chelsea Workhouse
Mary Caroline Judge 85 pauper bn Bethnal Green
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« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 May 08 09:48 BST (UK) »
Possible death
Apr/May/Jun 1885
West Ham reg district ref 4a 110

MAry Judge aged 89
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 May 08 09:52 BST (UK) »
And his death was

Oct/Nov/Dec 1844
Romford reg dist ref 12 167

John Goodricke Judge
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Re: early look up please john and mary jusge
« Reply #9 on: Friday 23 May 08 09:55 BST (UK) »
this is fantastic guys and gals. their whole life story in one hit!!!
i often find that there are more kids than you think. its an old thing that they only get the first ones christened. like theres always more photos of the first born than the ohters. i guess the novelty wears off and the more kids the more it costs so theres less money available for baptisms etc. been there done that myself  Smiley


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« Reply #10 on: Friday 23 May 08 10:05 BST (UK) »
IGI has possible christening for MAry Ann

4 Jan 1816
Sion Chapel Union Street Mile End Old Town

parents John and MAry Judge

but I cant find anything on there for the younger lot in Essex

Are you wanting to trace all the children down through the censuses to see what happened to them?
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« Reply #11 on: Friday 23 May 08 10:54 BST (UK) »
at the moment im more concerned what happened to Peter and his wife Jane and John and his wife sarah
theres not a possibility in high hell that grandad and nan are still there. they married c 1790 names Peter and Elisabeth simmonds cant find their marriage.
but its Peter junior that we are related to. his son went on to marry someone from our line.


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« Reply #12 on: Friday 23 May 08 11:18 BST (UK) »
Have you got this one?

HO107 709 2

Eliza Place Sarah Street shoreditch St Leonards

William Judge 20 wheelwright  bn in cy
Mary 25 dress maker not bn in cy
Peter 25 Tailor bn in cty

Possibly  three elder siblings, with John already married
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Re: early look up please john and mary jusge
« Reply #13 on: Friday 23 May 08 14:57 BST (UK) »
i just spotted a technical hitch.
if john goodrick jusge died in 1844 who is little James' dad who is 4 in 1851?


ooops or are we not with the right family. i know there can sometimes be idescretions with dates etc.......



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« Reply #14 on: Friday 23 May 08 15:26 BST (UK) »
Looking at later censuses, where he is 19 and 28, plus the fact of Mary C's age, plus the fact that I checked the image and it could possibly have said 9 not 4 (see 5th post)... I think he wasnt 4 but 9 in 1851, therefore born before John Goddricke's death.
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