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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 25 May 08 16:30 BST (UK) »

So back to Elizabeth, this should be yours (in fact there was a 3rd candidate, born and christened in Sep 1841 but I've ruled her out as she's still at home with parents John and Hannah in 1861):

1851
HO107/2066 143 22
Bedworth, Warwickshire
New Town

James Pickard, head, 39, Ribbon Weaver Silk
Judah(?), wife, 40, ditto
Joseph, son, 13, ditto
Elizabeth, dau, 11, ditto
James, son, 5
Allis, dau, 3
John, son, 1

All born Bedworth.

I'm wondering if it's someone's 2nd marriage, with the 6-year gap between the kids... (Edit: doesn't look like it  Tongue)

Extracted IGI christening
ELIZABETH PICKARD
Birth 07 DEC 1839   
Christening 18 OCT 1842 Bedworth, Warwickshire 

Father JAMES PICKARD Mother JUDITH

IGI extracted marriage:
JAMES PICKARD - JUDITH CATTLE
Marriage About 20 AUG 1832 Bedworth, Warwickwhire
 
     
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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 25 May 08 16:40 BST (UK) »

Wow - you are impressive Grin

Thanks so much for all that you have done - helping me move forward in leaps and bounds. I have also learned a few strategies - ie the inlaw trick is something I had not really thought about and was unaware of the batch thingy with the IGI.

How do you get a subscription to the Census - and are they regionally specific - or more general. I might not respond this evening as it is getting close to midnight here in Aus - and I have work in the morning. I am assuming you are in Britain?

Thanks

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LUCAS - Warwick, Bedworth/Astley Foleshill- before 1800's
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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 25 May 08 17:00 BST (UK) »

Census are available at several sites: Findmypast, The Genalogist, ancestry for instance. I'm not sure about the exact coverage on each of those sites - I believe ancestry still has the most complete coverage but you'll find lots of discussions about the sometimes dubious accuracy of their transcriptions.

There's also FreeCen - not complete but free (they only offer transcriptions though, not access to the actual images)
http://freecen.rootsweb.com/

Oh and I'm in the place my English friends seem to like calling Gay Paree Cool Grin
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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 25 May 08 17:09 BST (UK) »

Thanks again for all of your time Cheesy

I am sure I will have many more questions down the track - but I had better get some sleep.

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MILLWOOD - London, Fulham moved to Aus-Tas
LUCAS - Warwick, Bedworth/Astley Foleshill- before 1800's
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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 27 May 08 10:41 BST (UK) »

not sure if you have the following information but thought I would post anyway.

William Lucas married Rhoda Wilkinson on 26 March 1832 Exhall Nr Coventry
Children's christenings which took place in Exhall Nr Coventry:
Richard Lucas 9 Feb 1840
Thomas Luca 5 March 1843
Ann Lucas 21 Dec 1845
William Lucas 1 Jan 1837

Couldnt find Abraham's christening at same parish but there is one 'Abraham Lucas 21 July 1850 Astley Father william mother Rhoda Lucas' 

Marriage of Rhoda after Williams death:
Holy Trinity Coventry
19 April 1875
John Whitmore Shilton Age 64 Wid Occupation Miner Occupation listed as 'Miner' fathers name William Shilton a shoemaker
married Rhoda Lucas age 63 a wid father given as Thomas Wilikson a Blacksmith
Witnesses Abraham Lucas & Sarah Edmunds
Both John & Rhoda give their abode as Court 8 New Buildings Coventry

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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 27 May 08 11:33 BST (UK) »

Thanks very much Sharon . I did have most of it - but you have included some details that I haven't had - like the specific christening  date of Abraham. I had an approximate year - but that was all.

Every little bit of information helps fill in the picture - as you well know Cheesy Cheesy

Where/how did you find this information?

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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 27 May 08 12:29 BST (UK) »

Hi Debbie I have collected  a lot of resources over the last few years for  Coventry and lots of information on the Lucas name. Your Lucas's are not connected to mine but I tend to keep information I come across just in case !
Looking at your Lucas they seem to have come from Astley/Bedworth parish rather than Foleshill Parish. If you need any thing more looking up let us know will see what I can find
Regards Sharon
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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 27 May 08 12:35 BST (UK) »

Hi Debbie
Do you eed any census information? I have subscription if you need them just shout!
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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 27 May 08 13:39 BST (UK) »

Thanks very much again Sharon - interesting you make the comment that they are more from Astley /Bedworth. When I look back I can't agree more - and have to wondered why I even put down Foleshill --- that is the parish I have consistently had in my head. I don't have access to all of my stuff at the moment as I am in the process of moving. I have a feeling that some of the earlier stuff that I had said Foleshill and it has obviously just stuck in my head.

Do you know much about the region? I don't even have a sense of where the two places are and whether it is likely that they have moved between the two. I note that Rhoda Wilkinson senior was born in Foleshill and that the more recent Rhoda died in Foleshill in 1893

I will keep your offer of census information in mind and will ask if needed. I think I have most of the Lucas stuff that I need at the moment but will check as I go if that is ok?  Wink

Thanks again for your input and offer of help.

Debbie
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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 27 May 08 13:53 BST (UK) »

Quite possible they did move between them, Foleshill to Bedworth about 4 mile, Astley to Bedworth again about the same. Astley to Foleshill about 7 miles. Exhall not sure what it's classed as poss Coventry but only about a mile from Bedworth. So all very close together.
You may wish to look at St Giles in Exhall Nr Coventry as there are a few Lucas buried there I have  the NBI if you want any looking up it doesnt give burial plots but name date & age of deceased
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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 27 May 08 14:05 BST (UK) »

What does NBI mean?

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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 27 May 08 14:09 BST (UK) »

Sorry Debbie its the National Burial Index, not fully complete but does contain over 13 million records. for Engalnd & Wales
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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 27 May 08 14:26 BST (UK) »

I am thinking of subscribing to Ancestry - does that have a copy of NBI records - or is it totally separate?

If not I might ask for some info down the track if you don't mind. I think our state library has cds of some of this stuff - but not sure of the specifics.

I work full time and tend to get to it in drips and drabs.

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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 27 May 08 14:41 BST (UK) »

NBI is totally seperate, for BM & Deaths I would lookt at Free BMD Ancestry is great for full census searches though
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Re: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on)
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 27 May 08 14:46 BST (UK) »

Thanks for that Sharon. I have used Free BMD extensively over the years and found it very useful. I might ask you about info from the NBI in the future - Thanks for the offer. Smiley

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TREBILCOCK- Cornwall, Perranzabuloe  to NZ
OWLEY - Ireland (Dublin)moving to Australia (C1890)
MONTAGUE - Born Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland - moved to London, Middlesex transported to Aus
MILLWOOD - London, Fulham moved to Aus-Tas
LUCAS - Warwick, Bedworth/Astley Foleshill- before 1800's
DOOLAN - Ireland,Tipperary to Aus in 1857
WATKINS- London, Southgate to NZ then Aus
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