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Topic: William and Rhoda Lucas -Foleshill (C1840 on) (Read 1170 times)
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shannie134
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Debbie
Have just read your thread and from the info you have been given.
My GGG Grandad was called Abraham Lucas born1831
and his parents are listed as William and Rhonda I think, with siblings Richard 1840,William 1837,so some of the details fit but not sure.
Abraham went on to marry Mary Gilbert,they had 6 children and lived in and around Foleshill,Bedworth and Exhall.
Abrahams granddaughter my Nan owned a shop in Exhall,my Uncle still runs it today.
Also what is IGI
Thanks
Shannie
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Lucas:Exhall,Foleshill
Bray:Foleshill,Coventry
Harrison:Coventry,Derbyshire,Liverpool
Chaplin:Birmingham,London
Allen:Wolvey,Birmingham,Coventry
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debandbill
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Shannie - It certainly does appear that some of the details fit - however I too am not sure as I believe that the Abraham in my family tree (Son of William and Rhoda) was born much later - somewhere around 1850. William and Rhoda were not married until 1832 but this doesn't always mean much - but they did have another child that they called Abraham around 1850. In the 1851 census he is listed as being only 9 months old. If you scroll back on this thread you will see that in the 1841 census there was a child aged 11 present called Abraham in this household. As Tati suggested it looks like this child might be a relative- and she lists some possible parents.
The IGI is the International Genealogical Index and can be found at
www.familysearch.org
This site generally is a great resource - but you have to confirm the information it holds as sometimes people submit data that it not accurate- although I think the IGI comes directly from transcriptions from parish records.
Do you have a confirmed birth date for your Abraham? If you have been told that his parents were William and Rhoda - then it is possible that it is the child that was born around 1850.
I would love to keep in contact - as it seems highly probable that we are looking at the same family - even if the specific line varies a little.
My lot - Richard Lucas and his wife moved to Australia in 1862. He was my great, great grandfather. I actually have a picture of him and his wife - but not of his parents.
I still live in Western Australia in Perth - some 600 km from where Richard and his family settled.
Debbie
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HARVEY - Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
WASLEY -Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
TREBILCOCK- Cornwall, Perranzabuloe to NZ
OWLEY - Ireland (Dublin)moving to Australia (C1890)
MONTAGUE - Born Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland - moved to London, Middlesex transported to Aus
MILLWOOD - London, Fulham moved to Aus-Tas
LUCAS - Warwick, Bedworth/Astley Foleshill- before 1800's
DOOLAN - Ireland,Tipperary to Aus in 1857
WATKINS- London, Southgate to NZ then Aus
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shannie134
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Debbie
Hi thanks for your reply.
Just checked mail as about to go to work,I will re check my census results when I get home lots of bits of paper with loads of names on maybe William married to my Abrahams Mum before he married Rhona ??
Will send an update.
I now live in London but the rest of my family are still in Warwickshire,my brother lives in Exhall so has gone back to the area the family came from.If you look at a map of Exhall,Bedworth,Foleshill you will see how close they are,at one time each was small village along the same road out of Coventry.
Bye for now
Shannie
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Lucas:Exhall,Foleshill
Bray:Foleshill,Coventry
Harrison:Coventry,Derbyshire,Liverpool
Chaplin:Birmingham,London
Allen:Wolvey,Birmingham,Coventry
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julieproctor61
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message for shannie - could this be your abraham?
I was at a bit of a loose end and thought i would look for abraham 1831, found one baptised at st lawrence foleshill on 24/4/1831 with parents john and jane, john is a mason and the address in windmill lane. They has several other children baptised there also.
8/6/1828 thomas longford John's occupation mason
13/1/1833 john windmill lane bricklayer
23/2/1834 mary jane " " "
3/7/1836 joseph " " "
27/5/1838 ann " " "
7/6/1846 three children baptised together
hannah, louise and william address leicester road
occupation - bricklayer
27/8/1848 james new inn bridge bricklayer
in the 1841 census this family's address is partings of the heath, foleshill. Abraham is listed as abram aged 11, john is 30 a bricklayer.
julie
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Spicer, Harris, Coventry
Huntley Wiltshire, Monmouthshire
Gardner Stoneleigh, Gloucestershire
Holmes, warwickshire
Cox, Daventry, Coventry, Rugby
Hales, Stockton, Southam
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Shannie,
How has that research been going? Have you managed to determine if your Abrahams parents were William and Rhoda or not? If so - any updates on his birth date?
I am very interested to see what you come up with.
Debbie
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HARVEY - Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
WASLEY -Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
TREBILCOCK- Cornwall, Perranzabuloe to NZ
OWLEY - Ireland (Dublin)moving to Australia (C1890)
MONTAGUE - Born Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland - moved to London, Middlesex transported to Aus
MILLWOOD - London, Fulham moved to Aus-Tas
LUCAS - Warwick, Bedworth/Astley Foleshill- before 1800's
DOOLAN - Ireland,Tipperary to Aus in 1857
WATKINS- London, Southgate to NZ then Aus
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I really look forward to hearing about what you get back. 
If your great aunt remembers the names of William and Rhoda then it is likely that we are talking about the same family.
It is all fascinating stuff ....isn't it.
Debbie
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HARVEY - Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
WASLEY -Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
TREBILCOCK- Cornwall, Perranzabuloe to NZ
OWLEY - Ireland (Dublin)moving to Australia (C1890)
MONTAGUE - Born Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland - moved to London, Middlesex transported to Aus
MILLWOOD - London, Fulham moved to Aus-Tas
LUCAS - Warwick, Bedworth/Astley Foleshill- before 1800's
DOOLAN - Ireland,Tipperary to Aus in 1857
WATKINS- London, Southgate to NZ then Aus
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shannie134
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Debbie
Hope you have had a good weekend
I have just got my G Granparents marriage certificate which confirmed recents events,I have just sent off for my GG and GGG Grandparents certificates,this will then tell me my Abrahams father.Have have done some checks and 3 possible Abrahams around the time.
As soon as I have the certificates I will let you know
Sharon
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Lucas:Exhall,Foleshill
Bray:Foleshill,Coventry
Harrison:Coventry,Derbyshire,Liverpool
Chaplin:Birmingham,London
Allen:Wolvey,Birmingham,Coventry
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Sharon,
I had a really good weekend - thank you. We are building a new house about an hour south of Perth, the capital city of Western Australia and visited the site on Saturday. We were really pleased to see the progress. I hope yours was also good
Thanks for keeping me informed as to what is happening with your search. I look forward to hearing the outcome of it all.
Debbie
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HARVEY - Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
WASLEY -Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
TREBILCOCK- Cornwall, Perranzabuloe to NZ
OWLEY - Ireland (Dublin)moving to Australia (C1890)
MONTAGUE - Born Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland - moved to London, Middlesex transported to Aus
MILLWOOD - London, Fulham moved to Aus-Tas
LUCAS - Warwick, Bedworth/Astley Foleshill- before 1800's
DOOLAN - Ireland,Tipperary to Aus in 1857
WATKINS- London, Southgate to NZ then Aus
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debandbill
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That is good news Sharon - looks like you are on the right path at least and have the correct family - just back one generation:) We are still looking at the same family - the line just varies a little. I was very pleased to find Williams parent's names as I had no record of them before. How sure are you about the details regarding Williams parents being Richard Lucas and Mary Gilbert. I checked back and noticed that you thought in an earlier post ( 4th June)that you thought your Abraham had married a Mary Gilbert.
Do you mind me asking who the people were that gave you the information and whether they are likely to have any more information on William and Rhoda? Are you able to give me their emails - or perhaps the other genes site that you have be visiting. If they have some common ancestry then they might want to share information. As I mentioned to you - I have a photograph of Richard Lucas in a locket that was given to his wife. It is a reasonable picture of him. I have also seen a picture of one his brothers taken here in Western Australia - for the moment I can't recall if it was Charles or William.
As we find more information it will be good to compare and share. It is lovely to have someone searching for the same overall family.
Debbie
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HARVEY - Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
WASLEY -Cornwall, Kenwyn and around Truro to Aus
TREBILCOCK- Cornwall, Perranzabuloe to NZ
OWLEY - Ireland (Dublin)moving to Australia (C1890)
MONTAGUE - Born Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland - moved to London, Middlesex transported to Aus
MILLWOOD - London, Fulham moved to Aus-Tas
LUCAS - Warwick, Bedworth/Astley Foleshill- before 1800's
DOOLAN - Ireland,Tipperary to Aus in 1857
WATKINS- London, Southgate to NZ then Aus
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