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Topic: Help!!! Mcbride's of Ballybay (Read 2430 times)
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littlebill
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Hi
I would like to know how I trace family in Monaghan. My great great grandfathers english census return from 1891 gives place of birth as Ballybay, he was born c.1832 and his name was Henry McBride, he was in England by 1855 at the latest when his first child was born. His fathers name was James and his occupation was shoemaker but after much digging I cannot find any concrete proof that he ever came to England.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Jane
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Christopher
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1939 - 2009
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Hi Jane,
I feel the census is concrete proof that your gg grandfather was in England. You are not going to get any proof of his travelling to England unless he left the stub of his travel ticket somewhere.
Have you tried Ballybay Library Most of the Co. Monaghan libraries have books on the local history and genealogy of the county.
Chris
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littlebill
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Many thanks for your reply.
Is there any online way of tracing ancestors in County Monaghan? Would contacting the library by email be any good?
Jane
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millymcb
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Hi there littlebill...or should I say cousin Bill???
Was interested to read your post on whether Henry McBride came to England... He certainly did and I'm pretty sure he's my great grandfather too! Let's swap notes....
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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Christopher
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Hi there Milly,
Welcome to RootsChat.
You've got me confused as "littlebill" or "cousin Bill" signed messages Jane 
Chris
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littlebill
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Long Story!!!!
My youngest is called William but every body calls him Bill and I am little Bills mum....
Anyway, millymcb be if you send me a personal message with your email address I would love to swap info with you...
Jane
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peadar
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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My aunt was Margaret McBride nee Williamson, she was married to Willie mc Bride he was a coach builder in Ballybay they were Prysbyterrians. there was also a McBride family in Albert st. (Catholics). all family history records for county Monaghan are kept in the library in Clones. you will find the library if you GOOGLE it. Afraid there is very little information on line. you will have better luck with the L.D S. SITE.
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millymcb
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Thanks ---again.. Little Bill and I are searching the same Henry & James McBride (but at least we found a distant cousin inthe process) 
I wonder if your Ballybay McBrides are related to ours..or is it a common name around those parts.
Milly
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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peadar
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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milly information on Ballybay Mc Brides.1846slaters directory of ballybay lists James McBride nailmaker. Griffiths valuation1861 Thomas Mc Bride nailmaker. Slaters directory 1881 Patrick Mc Bride nailmaker. Gillespies directory 1897 Thomas Mc Bride grocer and baker.The northern Standard directory 1939 William Mc Bride carpenter and not a native of Ballybay.(my uncle). In Albert st Ballybay Thomas Mc Bride shoemaker this is probably your ancestor and i went to school with two of his sons Sean (shaun) and Kevin. their is a history of Ballybay called "at the ford of the birches" by James and Peadar Murnane. Your local library may be able to get you a copy. I have a school photograph of myself with the two Mc Bride brothers. I have been having trouble receiving emails but it is sorted now.
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millymcb
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Thanks Peadar..."At the Ford of the Birches" - yes that is the book I have (I think I mentioned it on the other Ballybay thread)...It's really interesting and so detailed.
That's interesting about Thomas McBride Shoemaker... I suppose he could be a cousin of some kind. I wonder if the two boys you were at school with are still around and know anything of their ancestry.
(Can't discuss here as they are hopefully still living persons)
Also - your uncle the carpenter.... Henry McBride born Ballybay was a joiner so that's a coincidence - or possible clue)
I have been searching trade directories hoping to find a James McBride Shoemaker in early 1800s in Ballybay but nothing yet. I did spot the nailmakers and wondered about them. I think (without checking all my notes) I may also have seen some McBride's who were saddlemakers or worked with horse leathers in some way too.(I'd have to check to remind myself though)
The closest I have found so far is a James McBride who was in the army. He was 18 in 1810 (so born about 1792 and would have been about 38 when Henry was born in Ballybay. I have his army service papers and it says he attested in Londonerry. He was born in parish of Dungiven (is that anywhere near Ballybay?) and gave his occupation as shoemaker. He was in Artillery for 24 years so came out in 1834. He was still in army when Henry was born so it is probably not the same person unless he was stationed near Ballybay and married there.
I have various other bits of army papers for other McBride's which you may be interested in...I'll PM you.
Milly
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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peadar
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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hi milly, my uncle willie is the protestant mc bride, the others are catholic. his father was called Alexander and his mother was Jane. they are buried in the church of ireland cemetry Ballybay. like my own family they are scottish settlers who settled in Ireland at the end of the 17th century. my own research is williamson-latimer so this is all i have on the mc brides but keep searching all the best Peadar.
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mcb12
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Milly,
I am a member of the McBride family (Albert street) referred to by Peadar!
How is your search progressing?
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millymcb
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Hello and a very warm welcome to Rootschat
I'm afraid we are still stuck on James McBride the shoemaker who fathered Henry McBride in Ballybay about 1830/31.
I've dug around as much as I can but not come up with anything definite yet. I'll PM you and let you know more.
Milly
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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Rory McBride
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mcb12 What is your name? I am also related to the McBrides in Albert St. I am trying to find what the original family crest of that particular McBride family looks like. If you know could you send me a copy?
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